trip into hell

otherwise you might risk a panic attack

weed is only safe if you dont have anxiety/dp/dr.

i know a few natural meds which dont interact with hppd and they also give you highs but i wouldnt call them drugs.

no my dp/dr is not getting worse..in fact it helps a little with anxiety and is not worsening any other of my remaining symptoms. snow is a little better the last 5 days. the high is a little psychedelic but is becoming more and more like i used to. when i first started smoking i had a little overwhelming panic feeling but it faded every time i was smoking weed cause i have learned that its all anxiety and just the way i have learned to trigger the fight - flight- freeze response in the reptilian part of my brain and i just had to unlearn it..its working everyday better again..its like bcoming rewired to your old self + being a way better person after all

my hppd took me almost 6 month (i had about 20 different crippling symptoms and thought i would kill myself or end up in a mental institution if it wont stop) now its over, i only have slight dp/dr and almost not noticable ghost images and snow and tryed weed and other drugs for about 4 times while hppd and always had extreme debilitating and long lasting panic attacks and episodes as result..and before the last two weeks i ended up to be back smoking weed and nothing is getting worse and here i am enjoying it again so dont lose your faith...i know what the other side looks like....dont obsess or it gets worse and give your brain time to rewire

yeah look at me..i have no hppd anymore..i only have slight dp/dr from time to time but still the snow and very weak ghostimages. and im smoking weed again but nothing worsened.

sorry but none of them is a narcotic...and if you dont like so called ''drugs''..try valerian or passiflora it might help you without addiction and the chance of overwhelming highs.

thats not good seems im the only one..since my eyes hurt and burn without headaches. i visited my eye doc but he couldnt help.

i have only a little dp/dr since my hppd is over but there is another symptom i still have since my onset from time to time my eyes hurt suddenly and its a sharp pain, they are a little red and feel exhausted all the time + through a mirror..i can see some of the veins in my eyes clearly and they always burn. i dont think its a physical problem cause i have it since my onset of hppd/dp/dr..so to me, it seems to be a neurological problem. i used artificial eyedrops..but they dont seem to help me has anyone of you had similar problems or solutions to this?

ok man...all too often i had to deal with these stupid migraines and everytime for 5 days in a row or so...since my hppd is gone and i have only slight dp/dr left, i dont get migraine anymore things that helped me: ° valerian - gave little relief of anxiety, insomnia, dp/dr and sometimes even migraines ° opium - gave me good relief of migraines,dp/dr,depression,anxiety and other pain (find your dose through microdosing) ° tramal - gave great relief of migraines,dp/dr,depression,anxiety and other pain (find your dose through microdosing) hope these things will help you..for me they did..i know what its like..hang in there and all the best for you

take opiates..and love them

hey man its not that im overdoing it i just want to smoke a view leaves now and then..and see what happens.. i have learned a lot about life in general and i even doubt that i would ever be addicted to weed again or anything else. and im glad that i got a second chance for life but im not fully cured im still stuck with dp/dr.. even though it occurs rarely..but to my mind there's no acceptable version of dp/dr..that means its still annoying so i dont think about taking any other drugs then medicine or a little weed...i was always loving drugs and had a scientific interest in them..it was the only meaning of my life and it breaks my heart that i could never do it again..but i already made a sacrifice by fucking on all other substances existing no matter how much im keen on them..at this point i only want to smoke pot again to have at least one source of well being..and if this is not possible..why am i existing at all !?

ok but since 3 weeks my hppd is over i only have dp/dr disorder left...but this also always kept me away from enjoying drugs..im sure the only reason a person with hppd couldnt enjoy drugs is because many hppd sufferers have severe dp/dr..and thats the actual problem when it comes to enjoying drugs or life .. trauma from extreme anxiety that leads to dp/dr...so one has to face, process and release the trauma before dp/dr fades away and thats good news cause its the reason why i feel better every day.

hey everybody.. i suffered extremely and still slightly suffer from dp/dr and i smoked weed yesterday and today and i usually get extreme panic attacks from it and every other stimulant ..but this was the first time i enjoyed it even though i smoked only a few leaves (not more than in any previous experiment) but i couldnt stop laughing after my smoke today..when i started smoking yesterday i had a feeling of anxiety in my belly coming on and thought it will go wrong as used to..but i calmed my self and it faded after only 3 seconds or so and then started to feel incredibly nice..its like i was fighting my fears and managed it through facing them but not overthinking..i just noticed it coming on and didnt pay attention and before i realized it the anxiety was gone. im so happy about this any other similar experiences? or drugs you know to be safe for dp/dr sufferers?

try lavender oil caps..take one or two every time and 1 hour before you sleep..it helped me big time

use valerian for anxiety and lavender to get proper sleep

well it increases general well being..i remember that i felt a little better since i started taking lions mane and it had absolutely no negative effects on me. i ordered LM from amazon, a package from oriveda containing 180 caps (each 1g) for 56,95EU and i think next time i will try a more concentrated extract or maybe ill order the mushroom itself or pure powder..so far im not sure. i will also try cbd oil the next week to find out if it helps with dp/dr anxiety, gues ill order various other extracts which already helped other dp/dr sufferers or served them as a drug. hope my dp/dr is also fading completely just as hppd..cause its still annoying. im so sorry for you since i know how hopeless it feels to be in the abyss of hppd..but dont lose your motivation..you can recover but it seems to be different for everybody its almost like one has to learn a certain lesson before it starts to fade away..to me hppd felt like a curse sometimes. anyway..can you say what led to your hppd and a list of your symptoms please. and do you take meds..if so..please list them.

when i got hppd it was hell at the beginning because i still smoked weed and then i went to the cleaning and it was ok for 2 weeks i had only a few symptoms.. but suddenly it became unbearable...i had to face 2 month of extreme hppd/dp/dr it was so bad that i just wanted to die everything was better then experiencing this hell...i had around 20 symptoms and not only visual..i thought that i messed up my life and will end up in some kind of mental institution or killing myself. at month 3 it was slowly getting better.. which started around the same time i began to follow my own health program. i dont know what exactly was responsible for my betterment but i think it was my lifestyle which has changed dramatically.

ngf: ° 1 apple every day ° 1 banana every day ° 2-5 different smoothies a day ° 3-6g lions mane a day ° 1 lavender oil capsule a day before sleeping to get proper sleep ° taking long walks in nature from 2-5 hours almost every day ° 1 omega 3 cap a day

denying it makes it worse man...you should distract yourself with reality to appear normal just concentrate on everything you do as much as possible..this is also part of the key to experience relief of the symptoms of dp/dr

man i had hppd for almost 5 month pretty extreme and then it started to slowly diminish and i thought i would experience this hell forever. how i recovered from hppd... i have no clue how this was possible and i didnt even think it was before it happened..maybe it is my lifestyle, some habbits i developed to cure myself since my onset or i was just lucky i really dont know i did so many things to promote ngf and a healthy lifestyle (suppliments,meds) and so on but im not sure what was responsable for my cure..sorry i wish i could tell you the dp/dr was also very bad but i was able to recover through distraction, i stoped obsessive thoughts by doing things that required my presence in the moment and started to ignore my existential depression and i was facing my anxiety to teach myself im not going crazy nothing happens to me and i learned step by step to recover my anxiety filter and then i had no panic attacks anymore and was feeling a lot better i couldnt believe it at first but that works as simple as it sounds even though it was hell to face my fear..all too often i found myself feeling completely helpless against this and was about having a panic attack and giving up..but i didnt and i guess the trick is to never lose your faith..that also helped a little with hppd symptoms + i took several supplemnts, meds, did meditation and sports - the most important is motivation i think i thought so often that i beat hppd but this time im certain.. cause i never had a relief of my symptoms for that long and i also never felt that normal all the time of having hppd and dp/dr and all my hppd symptoms are gone and i have only slight and rare dp/dr now - i hope this also fades away

hey first of all there are ways to deal with your dp/dr panic you must stop obsessive thoughts and existential depression which i know is easier said than done but stop worrying it makes you sick do something that requires your presence in the moment (take long walks and listen to music..that almost always helped me) and forget about everything else while doing that. and if you think your going insane then let go i know it sounds crazy but go insane tell your self its ok no matter how scary it is nothing will happen to you, you will go through it and learn step by step that your dp/dr induced anxiety loses control over you but be patient its not like a light switch - it takes time..believe me im serious ive been through the worst one could possibly imagine when it comes to anxiety and dp/dr lavender: i usually take one capsule which contains 80mg lavender oil and i bought my lavender caps (its called lasea) in the pharmacy but i found a link where you can order it http://www.versandapo.de/en/10060/5489626/Lasea.htm valerian: i also take one cap - containing 441,35mg dry verlerian root extract which i also bought in the pharmacy and you can order it from the same site http://www.versandapo.de/en/9382/499175/Baldriparan-Stark-fuer-die-Nacht.htm?lastActionId=2 both are nice when it comes to panic or insomnia and these meds are easy to obtain i guess you will find a way just visit your pharmacy or you could also order extracts from several smart shop homepages and there are other meds which might help, i tested a wide variety of substances myself and found several working. just remember no matter what you take to calm yourself..only take it if absolutely necessary, try to overcome your anxiety first before using something otherwise you wont teach your brain how to overcome anxiety and you will have to deal with it over and over again the meds are just working like a patch you know. take it easy man

i finally managed to beat it im so fucking happy i have no problems left instead of dp/dr disorder which consists of the following lasting symptoms ° rare dp/dr ° very low static ° extremely rare blurry vision ° sometimes light sensitivity im so lucky i had about 20 different symptoms after my onset till 5 month later...visual as well as physical and psychological symptoms..im so glad but i hope the rest of these symptoms will also fade away or at least the dp/dr that i can smoke weed again...XD betterment to all of you!

hppd faded 2 weeks ago for me i have no panic attacks anymore unless i drink, smoke or do entactogens and i have some advice for you what lethargic said is correct excersize n yoga and do long walks in nature or something you like or used to like before onset that takes a lot of time and if you experience: ° insomnia take lavender oil..i took lavender oil caps (lasea)..they bring you down and avoid nightmares + your sleep is more relaxing again (7-9 hours) ° anxiety or panic attacks... do deep nasal breathing and take valerian caps...it did wonders for me and dont worry the meds i recommended are completely natural not addictive and do not interact negatively with your hppd ...all the best for you man

man i had the same thing going on with me until the 3rd month after my onset...i started using lavender oil caps (lasea) to sleep well and after the first week of usage i only noticed slight but remarkable changes in sleeping patterns and after that week i slept better and better (7-9 hours a night without nightmares)..you should try lavender oil capsules lavender is similar to valerian both are completely natural and wont interact with hppd or dp/dr in a negative way so you shouldnt be scared to take these meds..i experienced that they also do wonders when it comes to anxiety and even panic attacks... get well