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im not sure i think hppd seems to be a differnt version of dp/dr- disorder...if you look at symptoms of dp/dr- disorder you will see static, wierd changes of perception also including hallucinations, panic attacks, anxiety, brain fog, migraine and so on..im sure most of hppd sufferers also have these symptoms...there must be a connection.. have this shit for 5 month now my symptoms: ° seeing faces out of random surfaces ° brainfog ° anxiety ° dp/dr ° depression ° migraine ° dizzyness ° nausea ° panic attacks (are wiped out these days) ° and i dont know why but visual symptoms like morphing, ghost images, light sensitivity and static are slowly fading the last days

man i recommend you to read the symptoms of depersonalization/derealization- disorder you dont seem to have hppd just like most of us you might not know that hppd and dp/dr are differnt disorders which may occur at the same time

no! ..opiates are in fact good for significant symptom relief and you could try them without being afraid except you exceed your comfortable dose or take an impure product mixed up with something else. and what receptors opiates affect is well known..ask google

hm...may it be that there are different types of hppd, different intensities or is it just that we all have the same disorder but experience it in another way because we are all different. my theory is that our filter is dissolved or lets say the ego psychedelic/shamanic speaking.. and the ego is what protects one from the difficult impressions where the perception of truth/reality can lead to..cause it is scary when you look at it unfiltered not able to sort out what you want to perceive and what not, so the consequences are hppd/dp/dr sufferers have to look at everything the reality consists of, im sure this could trigger panic attacks, unexplained pain, wierd sensations and so on ..remember some of your psychedelic trips ..what happens to you when for example shrooms are coming on...its mostly a sudden fear..which slowly dissapears (ego dissolution) when the general trip starts..and i think hppd/dp/dr sufferers are kind of stuck in this mad sensation because they permanently lost their ego/filter or lets say reality protector and thats why life is mostly so unbearable for them..i guess and the reason why it lasts so long for one and not for other people may be determined by the psychedelic experiences theyve made (frequency/intensity/substance) cause differnt experiences have differnt awakening potential...another possibility is that one has to learn the lesson of his life before hppd/dp/dr is completely fading... its hard to say i guess some people are also talking bullshit to appear improtant..thiis is hard to prove..if so and yeah ive got my hppd/dp/dr also from using shrooms and i also see faces out of irregular surfaces, sometimes morphing and visual snow...and i saw these faces since my third trip and this could have always been hppd but dp/dr and visual snow is what i have since my onset after over hundered psychedelic trips..so i could have dp/dr disorder now and the hppd from my third trip on has never been a problem..so my theory about this is that hppd is more common among psychedelic users and not so much a problem as altered perception...the problem starts when a user aquires dp/dr cause then the nightmare begins. im sure these are two differnt conditions but they occur often at the same time and hppd alone is usually not a problem, it wont stop one from enjoying his/her life/drugs and so on and im not sure if dp/dr can be caused by hppd as a result its hard to say though...just as you say we have to compare our symptoms and make statistics to compare and work it out..and the best way to do so is to create a form considering every relevant possability.

but i have read that dp/dr disorder has also static occuring as a symptom so maybe some of us have dp/dr disorder instead of hppd without knowing about it...so far im not even sure if hppd isnt a kind o dp/dr disorder. and psychedlics may trigger trauma perhaps we have to learn a lesson and face our deficiency to get rid of this shit i think it is imaginable that psychedelics are able to lock our brain towards new experiences to protect us from going crazy and only if we find a way to process our past and face our trauma our brain will unlock again for new experience...its just a theory but note that the natives who use psychedelics have no such issues and also have no trauma...it could be the key ...you cant imagine how glad id be to know everything about this strange hppd condition... we should look at it as our research topic..finding a solution to wipe out hppd, dp/dr or whatever once and for all...so that we make sure no coming generation has to suffer that much..cause its terrible

i have hppd now for 5 month, sometimes i think that some of us hppd people have dp/dr disorder (im not sure) because these disturbances could have also been triggered by drugs or other traumatic expieriences and could also cause visuals as a symptom i accepted my vision and i get rarely anxiety from...but significantly less then before and it still gets better i will also try meditation and started taking lions mane extract powder 3 days ago (it seems to do something good for me but cant tell where it leads me due to short time of intake) there is something else many people recommend and it is CBD they say it doesnt make them high but calms down and even has a decreasing effect on hppd symptoms..think ill give it a try next opiates seem to make most of hppd sufferers feel like 90% better or even cured..seems to be correct tryed opium and felt great (no negative after effects) i have wierd dreams about taking psychedelics and smoking pot too, i feel with you..i miss psychs and weed like crazy..damn what did we do to deserve this fucking illness i wish you all the best man and hope you get well

ok weed is not good for you but i read about some people enjoying CBD and also they claim it cures hppd a bit man i also tryed weed about 4 times in my 5 month of hppd and yes it was bad but not in the visual way it increased only dp/dr and i will not do it again until i get the dp/dr or hppd problem completely solved and i can still kill myself if i cant get rid of hppd and my life is a torture...life is dull flat n gray without the possability of enjoying something....so i dont care...

dizzyness, head pressure, feeling exhausted, slight nose bleeding, eye pressure, migraine, hypothermia...hard to take cause most of these symptoms are 24/7...think i cant get old suffering from that

i know it must be this way...but it breaks not only my heart but also my motivation and will to survive. i dont think that you can compare it like that:''someone who has had a heart attack being fine to eat bacon all day, someone who recovers from lung cancer being able to smoke again'' because if drugs must have triggered it or increase the chance of a relapse...they would have caused hppd after very few times using them...for example me i smoked weed for over 7 years and i never had a problem and i took psychedelics for 4 years and entactogens and opiates sometimes and never had even a sign of hppd and never knew it existed..i always loved drugs like crazy until i had that accidential mushroom overdose of 7 grams 5 month ago and it was a real bad trip i thought im dead or mentally insane for 8 hours or so...and thats why i cant imagine that only drugs are the cause at all..if so.i would have had it much earlier after all the stuff i put into my system...so the traumatic expierience only is to blame..the question is could a traumatic expierience change the neurochemistry that dramatically or whats the reason for my symptoms..im still wondering the problem is that in my mind one could only claim to be cured if the root of hes issue is eliminated..and the root is also causing trouble when it comes to altered states so thats why im convinced that being able to take/enjoy drugs again is a kind of perfect proof to be cured in the case of hppd.

well if there would be a real chance of gettiing rid of hppd why are there no people posting success stories so i dont believe that it will completely heal and if not there is no reason for life cause its only worth living if it is no torture. and when i say ''im cured'' i mean no hppd symptoms no signs of it and no fear of a relapse..actually one who has had hppd completely healed up must even be able to take drugs again otherwise it is a sign that there is still something wrong. no my doctor wants to put me in a psychiatry when i tell her about my suicidal thoughts..i already tryed it. and i cant move to another city or so it would be way too stressy for me also i have still only one good friend here and dont want to leave him alone i'll never find one like him again i would exchange hppd for cancer at anytime

i will never take madicine that change the way my brain works because i dont know what exactly is wrong with my brain and they are no solution they make my symptoms terribly worse maybe we all would be hppd free without having used medication..and how could you know that your symptoms wouldnt have got better even without sports because hppd usually gets better after 6 month of only waiting. by the way doctors are always advising to stay active because they want you to go working (they are hand in glove with the government) no doctor or psychiatrist really cares about your health..just look at the so called medicine they prescribe... if you can still feel your hppd it is not gone and so you cant be glad about that..sry man..to me this doesnt sound like you've found a solution. but still thank you for your nice words..

guys there must be a possability to take drugs again and without doubt there is...but first you have to get over what makes you panic when sliding into any kind of trip or altered state ..and this is dp/dr as long as you suffer from dp/dr you wont be able to have positive expierience..touch the root of the problem before you give up drugs forever and then you can have fun again

i have tried and still do: melatonin - sometimes it helps a little with visuals and sometimes it makes them a little worse...you never know...but nothing permanent valerian - it only helps a little when it comes to panic lavender - makes me a little more tired and helps to fall asleep vitamins - only a slight change in head pressure but nothing significant proper diet - no change and i guess thats why i always had a proper diet proper sleeping patterns - it doesnt help but if i go to bed later then usual my syptoms become worse the next day sports - will make it worse while taining, afterwards i feel mostly exhausted but good + i cant sleep properly the night after and i will try meditation, cbd and lions mane...and if that doesnt help...i dont know what to do anymore

im from germany.... ok i will look out for benzos on the internet and also try it but valerian has a quite similar effect as i have read (even though one has to take higher doses to get the same effect it is the natural alternative) i have no friends anymore all my friends were addicts and now..since i have to stay sober they dont want to have anything to do with me and also there is no lady in my life...people are always avoiding me for whatever reason that means i am completely alone the only life i had was the drug life. so hppd is definately the most unsituable illness for me. i still wont give up...i will fight another 7 month to make the year complete and if i still have hppd after that i will kill myself...because living with hppd is no option, life couldnt be less comfortable nevertheless thanks for your motivation...

i cant get benzos because there is no doctor who wants to prescribe them. but what is life worth if i cant take drugs and have no well being of any kind anymore..i want to be the person i was before hppd, i want to be me again und not just likewise. fuck i cant swallow this... i have tried and still do: melatonin - sometimes it helps a little with visuals and sometimes it makes them a little worse...you never know...but nothing permanent valerian - it only helps a little when it comes to panic lavender - makes me a little more tired and helps to fall asleep vitamins - only a slight change in head pressure but nothing significant proper diet - no change and i guess thats why i always had a proper diet proper sleeping patterns - it doesnt help but if i go to bed later then usual my syptoms become worse the next day sports - will make it worse while taining, afterwards i feel mostly exhausted but good + i cant sleep properly the night after and i will try meditation, cbd and lions mane...and if that doesnt help...i dont know what to do anymore

thanks for the advice.. yeah thats what i want to read... i love mushrooms (and psychedelics) and will try it to cure my severe hppd and dp/dr..just.ordered 3 xl growkits as i read that it helped you ...nice..im looking forward to the trip already

meditation??...i will give it a try...i was trying some meditation in the past but i had no patience and gave up after 3 days...

has anyone of you tried melatonin..i have

well dont forget hppd contains much more than visual symptoms there are several other physical symptoms i have and would exchange them for visuals at any time because they're so crippling

thanks for the advice man...i was thinking about taking benzos and asked for them but no one wants to prescribe me any medicine..my doctors dont seem to realize the severity of the situation..anyway youre right i dont want to face a new addiction and other health issues caused by so called medication.. and also i dont want to live like that ..for me it is not the solution to put something into my body wich wont help me because it doesnt even touch the root of the problem..is life really that hopeless for hppd people?...there must be another way..a way to fight hppd effectively instead of suppressing it and i dont even think suppression works properly

take melatonin before sleeping it makes visuals better for me somtimes worse...so if you end up having a good change in visuals after melatonin dont take more or it will get worse again.

no life is dull flat n grey without any substances it is highlightless nevertheless i was always researching substances and that was the only thing i enjoyed and loved in my stupid existence..i dont want to quit the only fun section cant you understand that? and i dont take meds they make me trippy only suppliments and i did sports and still do sometimes but thats not what makes me happy and doesnt even help my symptoms..anyway i cant do sports all the time .and there are very few things i do and i can do without making hppd worse or getting depressed...isnt there something like euthanasia for hppd cases like me..i dont want to torture myself anymore

yes i ordered some extract captured in caps for a 2 month usage...i will try them and if i realize something going on i will be back to tell you.

but i want to smoke and take hallucinogens and make some interesting experiments with drugs...shit how i miss all that...im thinking seriously about suicide if i wont go back to normal completely and i cant take drugs anymore because to me thats the only thing that makes life worth living

yeah the "dreams within dreams" phenomenon happens to me when i get dp/dr while sleeping i guess its because reality seems endless and countless on dp/dr..this could lead one to skip dimensions while dreaming.