alice-acid

just go with what feels right i guess, i still use drugs and find i know what does and doesnt sit well with me, alot of/ most people on here say mdma makes it worse, but for me thats just not true. i wouldnt recommend going all out though, not just for the sake of your hppd but also because its stupid haha

yeah i agree, tackle the anxiety and you've stopped the vicious cycle there, i get the feeling of anxiety before any visuals kick in for me, it triggers them, theyre linked in my head. i can be anxious about work of friends and that feeling triggers visuals, which in turn more anxiety. the rest of my symptoms barely bother me. trails and halos arent nearly as distressing as being anxious

i know! obviously if its intruding into my life this much it is a problem, even if they dont understand why, they could at least try getting the anxiety it gives me. tbh i dont even like to talk about it when i really feel the need to im convinced everyone thinks im a nutter whenever i do and that theyre sick of hearing about it but i honestly have no idea if that is true or just me being paranoid....

yeah i dno none of my friends have outright said it but ive had afew people sort of say that they have the same thing and they dont get the problem. these people tend to still take drugs all the time and say sometimes afew things wiggle.... they dont seem to understand that that isnt what is happening to me

i know but its still good to see the update! wondering if its much more understood yet

I have read in various places that there has been some kind of change in the criteria for the diagnosis for HPPD or something along those lines in the DSM-V. Does anyone know anything about this? It's basically impossible to find the actual changes made anywhere but maybe i'm not looking hard enough, and i don't fancy actually buying it

The anxiety is the main concern, and the weird feeling that my tongue has disappeared/blended into my teeth. That was always an odd one and not very common Plus then afew of the usual acid style wiggly lines and palinopsia, trails, starbursts :/ It's not the end of the world though it's fairly mild right now it just scared the shit out of me for afew days haha. Hope you're all good!

I feel for you i really do. You are going through a shit time but you can get through it and then the only way is up!

sounds like a great idea! could have used that over the last few weeks haha. too much alcohol over the christmas period has caused a complete flare up in my symptoms that i had genuinely thought i had escaped forever

Good topic I was about to start it in fact not posted in a while so not seen this yet. I first started getting my long term visual disturbances in early 2011, I'd taken Lsd afew times, quite alot of mdma and ketamine and was a massive stoner I'd see lines wiggle abit and everything had a slight fuzz but I never thought twice about it it just cmae with the lifestyle, my friends had it too so no worries. But I wouldn't really say it was proper hppd until early september of that year. I had a pretty wild summer and not long into it was my first bad trip. After that day whenever I tripped over the next few months I was just totally on edge. I couldn't enjoy it. I had some quite bad social anxiety anyway due to smoking weed constantly convinced my friends didn't want me there etc etc and I split with my boyfriend who knew this and decided to use that as a way to get to me. He told me one of my good friends was telling me how much better he was without me and how annoying I am and other made up stuff, but as much as a begged and pleaded he wouldn't tell me who. I didn't sleep for afew days I couldn't get it off my mind. eventually I told my best friend what he'd said and she assured me it was all I lie and to come over have a chat and a bong session. I hoped a bong would just make me pass out seeing as i seriously needed sleep but nope. That's when my hppd began. After afew weeks of this hell of being in a constant Lsd world i realised the only time I wasn't extremely anxious was when I was drinking. So I began to abuse alcohol which of course made it worse in the long run. Hangovers were the worst so I'd drink those away when I could it was maybe 3-4 days a week but would have been more if I didn't still live with my rents. When I was drunk I'd do stupid things usually end up paraletic and really possible alot of people off. I got a bad reputation and lost some friends because of this. I was still taking ket and md as much as I always was as well which was no help. After afew months it was pretty obvious I was going nowhere and quit the drinking for a while (mostly, but looking back if I'd just quit fully it would have been so much simpler) and the drugs and my recovery could start. I realised how much I needed to stay busy, it would thrive when i had nothing else to think about. slowly through keeping busy and healthy lifestyle it disappeared. I'd say it took maybe a year before I considered myself as better again, now I have no symptoms 99% of the time, sometimes after a big night out I get a little bit of movement and anxiety but nothing I can't deal with, especially in comparison to how it used to be. These days don't even bother me i just find it interesting haha. That is my very long story that eventually got round to recovery haha sorry guys once I start my story I feel like I have to go into detail every time I can't help it XD its actually edited down abit haahaha

Chris I think you need to bare in mind that this forum is for open minded discussions, if you think someone is wrong don't you think it's better to say that and present your argument so it can be discussed? You seem to think your own personal experience and theories are the right ones and that gives you the right to quickly and rudely dismiss all others. I hav returned to this board today for the first time in a while and noticed your posts are mostly antagonistic which is extremely unhelpful for all the confused people that need advice. Also FYI i notice you only joined in October, and maybe if you'd been on this board a little longer you'd have seen how many people really do come and go having mostly or fully recovered, people such as myself. It's alot of people I can tell you. The number of people with temporary cases is actually quite high, just thought you'd like to know

Haha I think we all know how hard it is to get someone to understand hppd. Where are you? Somewhere in the US?

I reckon the most important thing for anyone at this early stage is to stay sober, and try not to think about it. As impossible as that probably sounds.... But right now really it.sounds as though you are doing what I did and obsess over it which will make it worse! Once I stopped letting the scary stuff distract me from whatever I was doing at the time it got easier and that's when my recover began. Hobbys are so important now as well! Keep busy u may have already noticed that when you are enjoying something you forget about it for abit. And as difficult as it might be try not to surf this forum constantly (sorry guys ) its incredibly useful to anyone that doesn't know what's going on to realise it's hppd, and for tips, and even to get into when u have gotten over the worst of it but during this beginning phase constant research on why and how and all the rest of it is just a reminder and counterproductive I find, if it's constant like mine was anyway. Hope i helped abit

wahayy good for you hopefully ull stay that way too!

noo no travelling for me plans changed rather quickly, ended up working through the summer instead, couldnt hav afforded the travelling any more because i lost my other job ): and i know right it just seems to be benzos its quite weird

benzos are hard to get hold of for me at the moment, theres 1 man with valium who happaens to be away but yeah just called my boyfriend and hid under his duvet and watched a film, hopefully ill be ok it seems to be around the same of yesterday at the moment, i just must remember to NOT PANIC haha thankyou for the advice fellas,

i know exactly how u feel! back on this forum for the first time since about 6 months ago maybe a little less as i thought i was better. was my birthday yesterday and a little too much bday wine has brought me back here ): know exactly how you feel about the food being drugged things as well, i was eating a yoghurt before and was convinced it has acid in it because it tasted a little bit weird ull get through it though dont worry

i told my current boy friend about my hppd properly about a month into our relationship, hes very caring and understanding about it

so it was my 19th birthday yesterday! got royally drunk and woke up with hppd again. think i am actually going to go to hospital. does that sound stupid? my doctor is completely useless and wouldnt help me last time (i think she thinks ive brought it on myself and what do i expect her to do about it kind of thing) i feel as though i just need medical attention asap i really thought this was going to go away, but to be honest when i said it was gone and i disappeared there was still that hint of it there, it was still on my mind every day and i was left with very bad anxiety because of it, and i think its beating me this is more of a vent than a discussion or anything but does hospital sound dramatic? i really dont feel like it is

about a year or more i had it, and i was sober for most of it apart from the first couple of months and the odd time, in teerms of drugs making a difference- weed was a definate NO NO, and alcohol made it better at the time, worse on the hangover, and mdma made it worse a tthe time but no anxiety so i enjoyed at and better on the comedown, and ket was just a weird 1 made things worse and at first i was like terrified and then i was really fuked so just didnt care o.O but in terms of permanent damage i cant really say, made my general symptoms worse for the few months i was fucked all the time at the start, but on the odd occasions it made the differences listed above i guess. and no medications to make me better really, apart from that awful few months where i was getting fucked all the time and stuff, i bought myself valium and took it every now and then when it got to the point where i just couldnt take it

YAYY no visuals for the last month or so except visual snow, and thats really mild! its so good!!! it can be doneee

yeah it was very odd but it doesnt happen any more, it was just happening because i thought it would really

i wouldnt eat cereal or pasta for the first like 4 months of my hppd because on the second say of having it i ate both of those things, and both felt overly soft in my mouth compared to how i expected them to be first bite and all my visuals exploded at the shock of it lol, so i was convinced this would happen every time but in all honesty, i had overcooked the pasta, and left ther cereal in the milk far too long, and knew this somewhere in my head anyway haha

seems to make mine worse for afew minutes, but its because i hardly smoke sober, im just a social smoker in all honesty, so i get abit of a niccy rush and feel abit weird still every time lol i could imagine if you smoked because you were addicted a cig would do the opposite