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I haven't had a good phone for a while, so I was happy that day to get one of the best phone's out there lol. That's all Tomorrow I'm going cold turkey off tramadol that I've been taking for a year. HIgh dosage as well, I prob won't be around for a while. For some reason my body is so fucking addicted to this med. sucks. I even have to work one day when I'll be at the worse parts of the w/d's and I can't call in nomatter what. IDK, I never took meds before hppd. Now I'm just in a constant w/d stage and most of the time I don't even know what it's caused by. I upped my klonopin to 4 mg. a day and believe it or not it's been causing more panic attacks. How the hell can klonopin cause more panic attacks when I upped it wtf. I'm just not feeling good take care all!

I've had so many meds give me negative side effects, after a while you just come down to baseline and cross that one off your list. The highly addicting meds BenzoS, Opiates are the one's that really mess with you FOREVER, so you better know what you're getting into. Later all! How's your klono doing rollingregret???? PS I just got this Top of the line phone. I don't even need a computer anymore lol

Magnesium, tryptophan, valerian root, kava-kava (hard on liver though) used to help me w/ anxiety when I took them. Melatonin really does help with sleep as well, if you want to go the natural route. like hundreds have said I miss the old board, there was so much advice ect..tons of topics I see had already been brought up 100x's over. It would of been great for newbies to just do a search. Off subject, I was just watching a Documentary on Ozzy and if he doesn't have hppd wtf does he have lol

''But according to 1998, having HPPD alone seems to be handicap enough to dissuade you from getting your license and driving" I said "bad advice telling you to drive on any drugs though" I don't mention hppd alone making you handicap from driving lol. Xanax, klonopin, valium and ativan are all addicting as hell. Most ppl on this board already know this, but just incase I don't want you unintentionally pushing ppl towards these benzo's like my old Dr. did!! After taking these meds for yrs and trying to stop, you'll realize what I mean. Good day all

valium or klonopin but of course they're all addicting as hell, bad advice telling you to drive on any drugs though

Rollingregret, almost typed rollinggreat lol, anyways sucks to hear you're still not stabilized. You really shocked your system when trying to cut down. I honestly don't read any benzo boards anymore because it just makes me anxious to the point of freaking out. I was on 3.25mg for almost a yr. but for some dumb reason I just upped it to 3.5mg when I didn't even need to. So angry at myself! When I cut .25mg these are the wd symtoms I'll have for 3 weeks to 1 month. Increased headpressure, shaking, tinnitus, dizziness, nausea(sp?) weakness, anger, depression, insomnia, muscle spasms and twitching and RLS which I normally don't have. The good thing is towards the end of each taper I always start to feel almost exactly how I did before the cut. I just haven't done any huge drops like you to shock my cns, even though .25mg of klono is = to 5mg of valium. Just know you will feel better eventually, always remember that. I wouldn't bother w/ those benzo boards just keep your mind and body occupied. Having hppd a major anxiety disorder in itself makes these klono cuts hell!!!! Have you tried clonidine for w/d's. They gave it to me before for opiate w/d's and it helped w/ the sweating and shaking, I still get prescribed it and it does help my klonopin withdrawals as far as shaking and cold sweats. I would prob pick that over gabapentin even though it's a bp. med. You know more about benzo's then me at this point, but I would still stick to whatever dosage you're at and just wait it out. Going up only means you'll have to cut down even more later on when tolerence w/d's start. I really wish I knew if I'm going through tolerance w/d's right now and I just fight through them daily, or If I'm just tolerant. I'm hoping for tolerance. Later man message me anytime!! I don't think I got back to you on the last one Hadn't been online in weeks sorry

The only reason I'm able to still smoke if I feel like it is medication. If I wasn't on so many anti-anxiety meds I would have panic attatcks like crazy. When I smoke I just use regular stuff and mainly for pain not even for fun. This topic has been brought up 1000x's over on this board. I've heard so many say there visuals got much worse after smoking. My hppd, dp/dr ect.. has always been so bad, I'm not sure if it gets much worse, especially because I've had panic anxiety dis. my whole life. Once hppd was added to the equation you can imagine. All I know is if I didn't have full blown hppd, there's now way in hell I'd take the chance of smoking after being on this board. I stopped everything for the first 5 yrs and when I noticed I was never getting better I started taking more chances. I'm just saying don't do any drugs the first 3 yrs atleast, you might still have a chance of hppd going away! You just have to be productive and fight through it like ppl do w/ many other disorders.

I"m actually a bit high right now after I play some ps3 online I'll get back to ya!

''You will be amazed at the drop of anxiety JUST from having the knowledge you have a pill you can take, if things get too much.'' Jay that's to true, wish I could start over and use that knowldege

I started taking 1200 mg's of gabapentin for back pain 3 months ago. It hasn't done too much for the pain, but It has helped w/ my sleep cycle as well as klonopin w/d's. For me it helps relieve shaking and somehow depression. That bad thing is when I first started taking gabapentin I fealt very suicidal and numb to life or even caring for it. I stuck it out and after a week I started feeling calmer and slightly happier. I'm extremely happy w/ the results. I know it somehow helps w/ klonopin w/d's cause sometimes I'll forget to take it. Before I counted down the minutes till my next dose. When I make my next klonopin cut (prob not for a while working) I'll let you know how well it works. Please don't take this med because it somehow is helping me, just telling you how I feel on it.

Ya these stimulants makes my visuals a little bit worse, but I don't care about visuals. I've been seeing crazy shit for 15yrs. you get used to it and they aren't painful, what really bothers me is the dp/dr and the tension in my body causing strange fibromyalgia like symptoms. Sam you're very lucky you don't even get anxiety from these stimulants. Hppd is the worse for those w/ extreme anxiety, I think you'll get much better.

You can get dui's just from being tired or taking antidepressants ect... I always worry cause I drive daily and take klonopin which is basically an automatic dui. In Arizona they take blood test more often then breathalizers it's scarry as hell. If you don't take any meds don't worry about it, Dr's don't even know what hppd is..a dumb asss cop sure as hell won't know. If you haven't already DONT TELL THEM YOU HAVE HPPD they could take away your DL. If you ever get pulled over obviously same thing, you're not on any meds if they ask ect.... This is a touchy subject to me, if I get one more dui on klonopin (have 1 already) the laws here will put me in prison on a felony charge for 1 yr. PPl move out of AZ because Sherriff Joe A. is so hard on Dui offenders. I agree you should go to jail for dui's so I deserved it. Only 6 months in Jail:( and 10k fine I didn't hit anybody just had my brights on, but again I deserved it ppl lose family's from idiots like I was that night. Just an example how harsh they are in AZ. My sister was really drunk a month ago and her husband was driving sober, he went inside the house while she stayed in the vehicle, A cop saw her laughing and smoking a cig. so did a sobriety test on her. She's is now going to tent city (AZ hell jail) for 6 months, just cause she was in the car w/ the keys in the ignition. The vehicle wasn't even running. Sorry to get off topic but have to vent on this messed up situation.

Before I took klonopin I remeber always getting very sore eyes. As well as my chest being extremely tight, it was hard to breath as well. I actually don't get any of this anymore cause of these devil pills. I realize how far I've come in getting better when I think about all these horrific events I experienced. My head pressure is even 75% better and that is my worse symptom. (I do get precribed zanaflex muscle relaxers for it though, but I don't take it daily) It's hard to forget my chest getting so tight, my heart racing and muscle spasms all around my rib cage, it fealt like my heart was spasming, freaked me out. But all the EKG's indicated it was just muscle spasms. Those did get better in time though. I was on a small amount of klonopin so it just helped a little, but slowly over the next yr they were not nearly as bad and I didn't up my dose....long story short all my symptoms have gotten better except dp/dr....Feel better and remember when you're feeling aweful, clean the house anything to get your mind off it, plus you'll feel less anxious after moving around for a while. BEDTIME

I'll take concerta or ritalin around twice monthly so I'm not so drowsy from all my meds. It ups my anxiety, but at times I'll feel like my former self. My thought process will be clearer then before hppd. I def. don't want a rx for any stimulants cause drinking is too fun on them . 80% of the time I love them. But the other 20% it's nothing but panic attacks all day that benzo's can't even control! My heart will actually skip beats or beat off rythim. Come to think of it f///k those pills lol

I know how you feel!!! I wanted to die and cried everyday when this happened to me. Hot girls were even asking me out and I was scared of them:( There faces would become distorted and when having sex I payed more attention to the strobe light show, pathetic! My first step towards recovery was exercise (still is the best one). Swimmings and playing sports alot. You might not feel anxiety relief right away, but trust me you'll feel much more relaxed for hrs after. I never thought I would be able to handle a job but I just forced myself into hard situations daily, even w/ my heart pounding out of my chest. The more you force yourself the easier everything becomes. Even now if I didn't work everyday and exercise (jobs where you're moving around seem to work best for most) I couldnt handle hppd. I've tried to be a lazy person w/ hppd and it makes me suicidal. Every morning you get up even when your headpressure is hurting and you didn't sleep well ect....you have to force yourself to be constructive, It's the only true cure to this shit and even non hppders are depressed if they have nothing going on in their lives. PS i didnt read your post just the title feel better bro!!

My w/d's only lasted 5 days, but I was only taking a high dose for 4 days to get messed up. That was yrs. ago and I was just being stupid. I don't regret it though cause now I know all the documentaries ect.. aren't bullshit. The w/d's felt like extreme percocet w/d's after being on about 10 mg's a day for 3 months. It was quit similiar too klonopin w/d's especially the pain and shaking. BTW I took 70mg a day for around 5 days but I have an extemely addictive personality especially to opiates because it's wipes out hppd. But whenever I'm on vicodin ect.. my wife can tell and she hates the way I act, basically like I'm invinceable (sp?) and always right. I also make horrible decisions which klonopin doesnt do to me unless I'm drinking. Hope it's working good for you Shaolinbomber you only live once and I'm not one for living in constant pain either!!

I know exactly how well it works, I tried that stuff for fun quit a few times. I really wanted to get on it till my friend left and after 4 days of taking it crazy w/d already kicked in. Just stay on the lowest dose possible that helps cause you'll prob have to keep upping it. ????Did you tell them you were a heroin addict to get on it. That's what the person I knew did even though he wasnt. I wish you the best./I really hope this works long term, this is my last resort if my klono stops working ect. Later/GL

I have meralgia paresthetica, It can mimic some of these disorders pls look it up!!! I've been going to docs for yrs. about this it's all about numbness and tingling and fire sensation in the thighs, legs and groin http://en.wikipedia....a_paraesthetica

''Klonopin is the least addictive of all benzos'' You're a 100% wrong, klonopin is just as addicting as xanax and even more then most. The fact Dr. Ashton uses valium to help ppl get off klonopin is just an example. You should really read up on that before posting this. It could make ppl decide to go on klono thinking it's not as addictive and change their lives forever! I've seen plenty of doctors that think xanax is stronger then klonopin which is sad, just a shorter half life so more likely for abuse. I have a love hate relationship w/ klono like most. In my earlier yrs. as Jay pointed out I only took it because I was suicidal. So it was the best decision ever for me to go on this med short term. But then doctors convinced me it's not too hard to come off and even though I knew they were wrong I wanted to believe them. I've read only 50% of ppl have problems getting off klono but they dont have hppd for the most part. ''Of course we have a bad GABA function to begin with so WD will be tougher on us.'' I truly believe this to be the case Merkan!! As of now I take klonopin, depakote, gabapentin, zanaflex, tramadol and clonidine to help w/ the tramadol w/d's I get everynight. (close to getting off this tramadol supposively non- addicting which is bullshit extremely addictive) But I've felt better then I have in yrs and I know gabapentin, zanaflex along w/ hard core exercise have really helped me. The best thing about gabapentin besides helping w/ pain and my sleep cycle, is I have no desire to drink alcohol. Even when I do I feel sick, I read up on that and some doc's actually prescribe gabapentin to help alcoholics not drink because the combo makes you sick. K off to work I go Later all!

MikeZero, man I'm sorry to hear that! So dam confusing that alcohol could cause longterm damage w/o consistent abuse?? This is why it's impossible to give advise about hppd and doing any kinda drug!

As I was posting I saw the #1 pop up in the corner of my screen. Nobody made any new posts or responded to mine so whats that about??

I have no info on this accept my own experiences. Of course dehydration makes hangovers worse, but I drink plenty of water when I drink and still feel shitty for a good portion of the next day (visuals ect..). but I could care less about visuals, the anxiety and dp/dr is what kills me. I highly doubt that being dehydrated (unless you drink no water) is what causes these unbearable hangovers. "GABA is badly affected"" sounds like a much better theory to me. When drinking, plenty of times I've drank 2 to 3x's the amount of water then alcohol and yet still crazy hangovers. I seriously doubt alcohol can cause long term damage. Or I wouldn't be holding down a job, have a nice house, cars ect.. Even smoking a good deal of weed only effects my visuals for 1 to 5 days max. I am on a high dose of klonopin though and that could easily be killing the anxiety that creates such visuals from drinking ect.. If you want to drink,drink just don't become an alcholic!! Some of my greatest memories during hppd is while having some beers w/ friends and going out. Nobody knows but I'm not letting hppd hold me back anymore then it already has

You Euro's can have a European tournie cause you're scared of South America lol. I just watch it when on espn but I love all sports, I'll stick to everyone of them. They're actually trying to put a NBA (basketball) team in London crazy huh. Doubt it will happen cause of travel time ect.... Anyway football I really think Italy will win w/ their one man army

''Actually, that ties into this thread quite well as there are places in India where you stay in these really posh tents and can smoke opium all day and travel around on elephants for a few $s. ''' Funny shit lol

I like Football but that's a funny ass picture Shaolin/ Maximus Maximus