Jay1 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Last week, I started taking Magnesium Supplements (2 x 375mg per day) as I read it was good for anxiety/stress. Much to my surprise, it has worked quite well... Anxiety is a bit better and it even seems to be reducing my visual snow by abut 30% (it is still there, but seems finer). The user Morbide has also started this supplement, with good results (reduction in VS). It my be a placebo (6 days in)... But might be worth looking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepuinthesky Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 which magnesium supp are you taking? magnesiumoxide, carbonate or citrate? oxide and carbonate or not so effective as citrrate or aspartate because if you have a lack of gastric acid they dont dissolve. furthermore powder is a better choice. citrate or aspartarte has the best bioavailability. but dont take calcium supps this is the antagonist of magnesium if you want to take calcium do it a few hours later. there are also a few posts on the visualsnow forum that people had a good success with magnesium in large amounts but i would not recommend this because this could be deadly in the worst case. my opinion is that it is effective because magnesium is nature's own calcium channel blocker and it seems that a few people have success with drugs like flunarizine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted April 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Oxide, that is all they had at the store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepuinthesky Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 this is better than carbonate. i think for long term use also better as citrate because you also get alot of magnesium because of your nutrition. eat alot of spinach and nuts sunflower seeds has a lot of magnesium i eat them every morning. here are some quotes of the good ole wiki^^: Magnesium is an essential element in biological systems. Magnesium occurs typically as the Mg2+ ion. It is an essential mineral nutrient for life[1][2][3] and is present in every cell type in every organism. For example, ATP (adenosine triphosphate), the main source of energy in cells, must be bound to a magnesium ion in order to be biologically active. What is called ATP is often actually Mg-ATP.[4] Similarly, magnesium plays a role in the stability of all polyphosphate compounds in the cells, including those associated with DNA- and RNA synthesis. The DRI upper tolerated limit for supplemental magnesium is 350 mg/day (calculated as milligrams (mg) of elemental magnesium in the salt). (Supplements based on amino acid chelates, such as glycinate, lysinate etc., are much better tolerated by the digestive system and do not have the side effects of the older compounds used, while sustained release supplements prevent the occurrence of diarrhea.) and ithink the most important part Magnesium can affect muscle relaxation through direct action on cell membranes. Mg++ ions close certain types of calcium channels, which conduct a positively charged calcium ion into neurons. With an excess of magnesium, more channels will be blocked and nerve cells will have less activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 Jay, Aside from the bodies general need for minerals, you can manipulate the autonomic nervous system with Mg, K, and Ca. Just for fun, add a little potassium and let us know if anything happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morbide Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'm on a magnesium, zink and b6 all in one supplement and i really like it, i sleep better and i feel more rested, almost no muscle tension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukov Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Magnesium its a very good suplement, but i cant take it everyday. Its really funny and sad at the same time, how hppd change the "road to destruction" to "race of healthy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 What happens if you take it everyday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukov Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 My digestive system become really unstable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 My digestive system become really unstable. Do you mean diarrhea or like digestion becomes too active/quick (kind of like hyperdigestion)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukov Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Diarrhea or something like that. I can take magnesium only 3 or 2 times a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepuinthesky Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 if your body has enough magnesium or the pills dont dissolve completly because of a lack of gastric acid for example it binds the water in your gut and you get a diarrhea. there are a few possibilitys to get rid about it. 1. dont tske magnesium in combination with fatty food 2. use mignesiumcitrate 3. split your dosage. for example take it 4 times a day in small amounts instead of one big amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morbide Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 I keep taking these and my visual snow dampens more every day, really happy with the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukov Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Thanks for the advice nepuinthesky, i will separate the dosis in three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
must-be-a-way-to-heal Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Great this is really intresting too.. Fantasic to hear of your improvements Jay1... This is something i am going to look into also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Sorry to 'harp' ... but has anyone tried Potassium (K)? It is VERY interesting that some are getting benefit for VS with Mg. So this raises questions: Did Mg help because of a general metabolic need? For example, Mg and B6 are cofactors for dopamine, norepinepherine and epinepherine - that is, Mg and B6 are need to make them. If you have low Mg and low dopamine, taking Mg will generate more dopamine. Did Mg help because its helping to correct an over sympathetic dominance? While Mg is needed to make DA, NE, E, it is also block sympathetic nerve conduction. So Mg improves peripheral circulation which includes the retina. The autonomic nervous system is in 2 part: sympathetic and parasympathetic. One can dominate the other. As examples, fight/flight is sympathetic dominance. And sleeping is parasympathetic. Did Mg help because of changing nerve function in the CNS by some other means? The reason for the Potasium suggestion is that Potasium stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system (thus helps to correct for sympathetic dominance). The test would be simple ... for anyone that Mg helps their visual snow, does adding K help as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted May 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 i'll grab some next time i'm in town and test it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukov Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Also magnesium is needed to low down the natural calcium we have in the blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepuinthesky Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 i imagine that magnesium helps with visuals is because it is an calcium channel blocker and so has indirect impacts on serotonin same like flunarazine only my assumption. as for potassium i would not recommend taking it over a long period,because it has impacts on your heart. i had to take after a strong diarrhea because of a lack but i had to control my blood two times a week. but this was medical potassium maybe these supps arent so strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukov Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 for potasium i eat a LOT of fruits, banana mostly. And honey.great too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 i found magnesium seems to make acetyl cysteine more effective. This may be due to its role in the enzymes that make glutathione from acetyl cysteine. A good dose (couple of teaspoons or so) is also pretty relaxing. I use alkali magnesium hydroxide powder and mix it with my other potions which are acidic, so it helps neutralise them a bit. THere's talk of magnesium malate being good. This is over priced - you're probably better off getting some malic acid and mixing it with magnesium hydroxide which will do the same thing for cheap. I dont really notice anything from malic acid though. Bear in mind that magnesium hydroxide by itself is quite a strong laxative (it is business end of milk of magnesia), so best neutralize it to a less laxative salt like citrate, malate or ascorbate by mixing with the corresponding acid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hppd33 Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 How is your VS morbide? Jay are u still on mg too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendan Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 if you are taking magnesium you may still be defiicient if you are not getting enough magnesium cofactors. I think thiamine is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 i'm no longer taking magnesium, but there is probably some in the multi vitamin i take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrab Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Wanted to bring this back and say this has been an amazing supplement for me. Pretty much the only one that has worked I started taking half a tea spoon of magnesium citrate in powder form on my lunch break 3-5 times a week about 5 months ago. After just a couple of weeks i felt relaxed and as i would normally have a 'bad day' at least for a couple hours every few days I found they had stopped. Even on a grey weather day after not getting much sleep I was feeling fine, these days would normally be hell for me and I would know I was going to have a bad day just looking at the weather report. Since taking it I would say I haven't had a bad day at all and the longest I have anxiety thinking about it would be max 30min in a day maybe once or twice a week. It has really made me stop looking for my visuals and calmed me so much. I would also say there has been at least a 50% reduction in visuals, 80% in anxiety and even a 25% reduction in brain fog and other brain issues. I think other people if they haven't tried this really need to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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