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Wanted to bring this back and say this has been an amazing supplement for me. Pretty much the only one that has worked I started taking half a tea spoon of magnesium citrate in powder form on my lunch break 3-5 times a week about 5 months ago. After just a couple of weeks i felt relaxed and as i would normally have a 'bad day' at least for a couple hours every few days I found they had stopped. Even on a grey weather day after not getting much sleep I was feeling fine, these days would normally be hell for me and I would know I was going to have a bad day just looking at the weather report. Since taking it I would say I haven't had a bad day at all and the longest I have anxiety thinking about it would be max 30min in a day maybe once or twice a week. It has really made me stop looking for my visuals and calmed me so much. I would also say there has been at least a 50% reduction in visuals, 80% in anxiety and even a 25% reduction in brain fog and other brain issues. I think other people if they haven't tried this really need to

Blue field entoptic phenomenon is my main visual symptoms. I developed other symptoms straight away after a trip such as dr/dp, brain fog and memory problems first but after about 3 months of these my 'sparks' started. I'd say if you had other symptoms as well and you have had a trip you'd most likely have hppd. Im sure you've also found by now sun glasses do a lot to reduce the sparks Hope this helps. Try not to dwell on it too much as it is a natural thing to see and everyone can see it if they try. Mine has reduced over the years. Use to see it inside all the time on white walls where this has almost gone now unless they have every bright direct sunlight

I find this my worst symptom. It use to be much worse then what it is now but its still there for 7 hole years now. When I stop at red lights I try to focus on the red light then a mark or something on my windscreen. I keep doing this and try to hold focus for a couple seconds on each one. Its something I'm trying to see if it'll help

I know just from talking to my friends that it seem a few people mite have mild visual symptoms. None of them know I have HPPD as i try to keep quite about it. One time when I was out with one of my mates there was this bright blue LED sign. To me it was the same old story of halos all around it and just not being able to focus on it. My mate mentioned how hard it was to focus on it. Another time I was told a friend at the movies said he was going to have to leave if the bright blue screen didn't stop soon as it was giving him visuals. Another time one of my friends was telling me if she had coke the next day she would see sparks in the sky. All are drug users. Maybe these people don't worry about it too much so it doesn't effect them as much?

I'll tell you about my experience with taking drugs and having HPPD and let you decide I got HPPD coming up to 7 years ago. I like you tried to stop my drug use but thought stuff it as I didn't seem to see much improvement and didn't feel a huge increase in symptoms just getting on it every couple of months and drinking on the weekends. This began to get worse and eventually it was ecstasy, speed or what ever stimulant I could find every weekend if not every friday and saturday night and smoking weed 3 to 4 times a week. I remember at my worst I had been to the movies one weekend and the next week I couldn't remember being there as I was so fried. I cut it out heaps and went back to just taking drugs every couple of months sometimes trying to quit for about 3 months then thinking fuck it can't feel any thing I'll just have a couple of lines this weekend. I have now been clean for 10 months, the longest time since I got HPPD. I have only just started to feel my brain clearing up as I've given it a decent chance to repair its self. I'm optimistic that it will go away in a couple of years but I still know there's a good chance I'm stuck with it for life. If you do chose to keep using drugs watch you symptoms more then what I did and be really careful. Best of luck man! P.S I still drink coffee and alcohol in moderation. As you said whats the point in living if you don't enjoy it

I think mine had something to do with depression leading up to the trips. I smashed some a hole lot of x one night and then had the worst come down. This was my first real come down and just felt like I had fried my brain for ever. This then lead me to depression for a few the next few months and not being able to cope with day to day dramas. While I was coping with this I had 3 trips over 4 weekends on some srooms, bang hppd for almost 6 years now

Life goes on if you want it to. I've hardly been on this site the last few months as I'm travelling threw Canada at the moment. Going to be going around the world for the next year plus maybe longer. I've made new friends, put HPPD to the back of my mind, becoming more social and maybe even feeling less DR. Heres a photo from the Aruas over Banff, Canada with some of my new mates. I can't seem to get the URL to work so ill link it to my flickr account. Also a way of showing my other hobbies of photography and skateboarding http://www.flickr.co...arr/7111569475/ http://www.flickr.co.../tomphotogbarr/

Yeah man i've been thinking the same thing recently. I have been reading a lot of the dpselfhelp forum and have found the symptoms relate to me. I don't get massive visuals and my main problem is DR. I was thinking maybe i only have DR but if it was caused by srooms dose that mean i have HPPD as well? Im not sure if its going to improve our odds of recovery as they all seem to be searching for the holy grail of medicine as well.

I don't pre drink heavy if I'm going out now. Before i'd try to knock back half a bottle of vodka or 8 to 10 beers before i went out. Now i'll bring 1 or 2 beers to a friends house. Then when i go out i don't drink shots or mixed drinks and stick to beer. I also just try to drink them nice and slow. I'm actually enjoying it more not get shit faced. I wake up and don't feel like crap. I can remember to my best ability with this hppd all the dumb things everyone els did and know i didn't do any thing embarrassing. So far too i am feeling much better. Only trouble I'm going to have is I'm going over seas soon and will have no job for a very long time to keep thing in order

I don't get the cartoon look too much its more that every thing just looks our of focus. I get things coming in and out of focus. The worst for this is red lights for some reason. Not so much red traffic lights but more say a alarm clock screen that has the time. It just goes in and out and bounces around but it always seem worse with red lights. Also things like a grass field the hole thing shimmers and just starts to turn into a green blob almost. Like a lot of our troubles its hard to explain. After reading the dp/dr forum they seem to have a lot of problems with similar things.

I have the same problem about being in a group. Even when there close friends and I'm having a drink with them I'm still struggling to join the conversation. I find I'm fine one on one but then any more then 4 other people and i hate it. I feel I'm going to say some thing stupid so i sit there being boring instead. I hate attention on me as well even if its good. All this feels like its come up just in the last couple of years as my hppd as become less

Some times I do get pissed off i got mine so easily. I have the same problem of wanting to keep going though. Just at a music festival or a good gig. If i could just pop a pill once every couple of months. Even try LSD just once to see what its really like. In the end though nothing good comes from drugs and I'm better off cleaning my self up now before I do some thing worse. I only have my self to blame for my situation. I'd find it so much harder to accept if I was in visuals position and someone els gave it to me. (guessing by what you said sounded like someones mistake)

I had ecstasy about twice and smoked weed maybe 20 or so times. I then had srooms 3 weekends in a row and BANG 3rd trip i was seeing static that night when i was coming off it. Next day it was dp. With in a month or 2 it was feeling brain dead.

Best of luck man i hope he has some good information for you. I wish I could fly half way across the country to see him, instead i've got to go to the other side of the world haha. I am going travelling around canada and the states real soon so i was thinking i may was well see him when i have the chance. I'd like to know as well how other people have found there visits with him too. I'd like to cure mine with out drugs for now as i feel i haven't given it 100% so maybe if he can give me light on that. Would be worth it? Sorry i can't help you on this one. Sound like your hppd has been hell man. I hope Dr Abraham can help you out.

I know the feeling. Every thing use to feel easy is now some thing i have to try at. At the moment I'm taking the standard 2 multi vitamins, 4 fish oil caps and 1500mg of NAC a day. There was also the other ones Visual got me onto which was 5000 mcg of B12, 1200 mg GPC, 3000 mg MSM. This is meant to help with nerve growth. He also said to take it 3 days on 2 weeks off. So far NAC has helped the most but I feel these other ones need a lot longer time to help repair the damage that has been done. I would say I have improved about 20% so far. It may also be that i have cut down the amount of alcohol i was drinking.

Yeah i have worked around mine to and am doing really well. I am slowly starting my own business while working full time for another company. Im moving over seas soon and ill come back to working after i go and see the world while i still have a chance. Seems like a lot of people have managed to do very well for them selfs even though we have this shit hanging over our heads

Yeah my minds really bad. Im not sure if its to do with hppd/dp/dr/brain fog or the drugs and booze. My memory is shit i struggle to remember what I'm talking about especially if its a boring conversation. I think this also is to do with one of my other troubles of not being able to concentrate. I find my brain will some times go blank too. I'll be adding some thing up or writhing an invoice and bang ill go blank for up to 30sec or ill start thinking of some thing els. I find I will be walking some where or doing some thing and then i'll just click and realise I'm doing some thing wrong or that i don't need to do. This year i have begun taking supplements even though i already eat healthy and have never thought much of them. But I'm changed now. After not even 2 months I'm feeling pretty good improvements. Seems like it mite be the way for the time.

From my experience even if its not a hallucinogen it can still make your hppd worse. My hppd started a little like yours. It wasn't too bad but it dose take months for it to fully kick in. I continued with drugs and it got a lot worse. That shit drug speed was my favourite after i had hppd. I cut down weed and cut out hallucinogens apart from some times MDMA. It made my visuals and DP/DR go off the chart. When i first started having hppd my visuals would also stop when I was on speed. After abusing my mind and body it no longer dose. All drugs are shit and have fucked up my life. I now look back on the last 4 and a half years and it all feels waisted. If your have MILD hppd would your want to experience BAD hppd?

Dose look interesting thanks for that. Couple other quotes i've found on the net "In a study in psychiatry, researchers gave it intravenous to four depressed and five schizophrenic patients. All four depressed patients showed a transient mood elevation or stimulation, as did two of the five schizophrenic patients" - I'm not depressed and defiantly not schizophrenic but may help. "almost no muscle and nerve pains.no more depression due to medical issues,more energy like pre pre menopausal,sharper mindfunctions, feel alive like a 35 yr old. iam 65. stopped taking meds for nerve pain,antidepessants, celebrex" - This was a review by someone who had been taking it I'm going to keep looking into this one. Would be good to see what visual has to say about it

Sounds like your doing the right things man. I wish i had of payed attention to what my mind was doing when i first started getting hppd. For me I got it when i was 18 after having 3 trips of srooms 3 weeks in a row. I first noticed VS that night when i was coming down. The next day things were moving and dp/dr started I didn't have VS then though. They started to get better again for only a month or so. I continued smoking and drinking during this time (can't remember if i had other drugs but may of). After a few months it did start to get worse again. A lot of VS, brain fog, poor memory, dp/dr all the works. It probably took 4 months after the trip to fully kick in. I felt like i was making my self feel like this too as i kept focussing on different symptoms, staring at things and thought I had just made it worse. Now I don't want to scare you too much so a nice story to go with it too. Around the same time i got my hppd my older brother had such a fucking mad trip on srooms by the sound of it. I have never herd of any one hallucinating so much. He then for the next month had bad anxiety, things moving and some mild hppd symptoms. He didn't smoke and drink after this and after a couple months his symptoms cleared up Your doing the right things so far. Keep it up and hopefully all will clear up

For me i feel it can't hurt to cut down the booze for a few months to see what it dose. I'm not sure if its going to make a huge difference but it just part of living healthy. I'm not cutting it out all together other wise i'll have no social life. Next step is cutting out caffein but i feel this would be the hardest of it all i just love coffee. I've only just started trying my best to get better and its just a matter of finding what works i think. But the main thing is cutting out all drugs. I hit speed and shit loads of booze with it the hardest and although its not a hallucinogen it made it the worst. As everyone els has said stay in uni, keep your self occupied and live well.

It dose suck man but the longer you live with it the easier it becomes. You never know if you keep looking after your self and maybe even try give up the weed it mite go away. How long have you had hppd? I have recently started cutting down my drinking as well as stopping all drugs before this too. I have started taking supplements and even after so long of having this I'm feeling improvements and feel there may be an end in sight. I got my hppd when i was 18 too I'm now 23. The first year was fucked felt like i couldn't remember my own name and thought like you my hole life was over. The next year i took too many drugs and it was worse. I then cut it all back and it became manageable. I can tell you although it has fucked me up a fair bit i've learnt to manage it like you will too. I now have a good career that is paying me better then any one i know my own age and a lot of people older then me (and i dropped out of high school). I have saved enough money that in a few weeks I'm leaving my job to go travel the world with no real plans. I'm hoping telling you some thing about me you can relate to it. Although it is shit and i still think about it every hour it would now feel strange not to have hppd, I have managed to get to where i am now with no medication and no doctors. Im not saying this is the way to go some people who have had help from doctors would be better at giving you info on this. It isn't the end of your life but just a new chapter. Best of luck with it all.

I didn't even realise i had trails or what i think is trails till i found this site. For me if I'm in a dark room and wave my phone screen across my face it leaves a trail for properly only quarter to half a second. If i wave my hand in front of my face and don't focus on it the trail is even less its just like motion blur from a photo. I have never seen trails on any thing els and i really hope i don't start to. How would you describe your ones? Last much longer? Do they leave after images? My job I'm not on a computer at all so I don't know if that has any thing to do with it.

YES! I have this so bad every thing you said is how i feel. Had HPPD for 4 years now and i have learnt to live with it but it just never leaves my mind. I've been thinking about it more now that I'm trying my best to get rid of it. Im always looking at things thinking "is this better or worse then yesterday?" Now i've found this site to I'm on it every night looking threw all the old threads, just reading what its like for everyone els. I know I need to stop thinking about it but fuck its hard. The best way I have found to forget about it is to keep my self occupied but still i struggle. I work by my self all day too so I have no one to talk too and my mind just runs all day long. Sorry I can't help but best of luck

Mine were really bad. The first one happened about 9 months after i had hppd. It was new years day night (if that makes sense). I had 1 pill and a small amount of speed for the first time the night before. I had a few people round at my house at the time and we were having a smoke and drink. I had been having stomach pains from about 6pm that night and they were slowly getting worse. We all went to bed and a couple hours later my friends woke me saying i was groaning heaps. I woke up and it was with in about 30 seconds i blacked out. When i came too i had been out for about 30 seconds. They said all of a sudden i collapsed on my bed then sat up and started breathing really heavy staring at them for 10 sec or so then collapsed again. This time they said i stopped breathing they jumped on top of me and woke me up. The next 2 came on again the next day or 2 after a night out. (Still hard to believe i kept doing it to my self) The 4th though came on when i hadn't had any thing for a couple months. All of them i have had really bad stomach pain (3 of 4 i've passed out on the toilet haha). Im not sure if its some thing related to hppd or not have never seen a doc about it. I have always had a weak stomach too. It has been over a year now since my last one so i think it mite of just been all the crap i was putting in my body.