Jay1

mate, forget the world cup.... the european champions league is where it's at. This is where you see the best players in the world. http://soccernet.esp...-league?cc=5739 I went to lisbon last night to watch Benfica v Man UTD (my team)... was a good game and a great laugh to be with 2000 united fans against 63,000 Benfica fans.

Good luck mate, like I said in the PM.. careful with the klonopin.... but glad you are feeling better

I've yet to try scuba diving... but love snorkeling. The water in Portugal has been exceptionally clear this summer... not amazingly rich in sea life (they eat everything that moves!) but it is still a buzz seeing a flat fish or octopus. Snorkeling in mexico was a blast... sting rays, sea snakes... all kinds of things. The ocean has a way of making me forget about hppd... maybe because it is in constant motion, so I don't fixate on one thing.

Don't be too quick to dismiss this post... I don't think hppdguru is necessarily saying that those things will 100% cure your symptoms... but can change your outlook on life to the point where hppd is not overtaking your life in a negative way. I'm in agreement that a healthy positive outlook is the key to adjusting to life with hppd. I've had this for 16 years now and the symptoms have never really changed, for better or worse. but my outlook on life has changed from despair and depression to a generally positive, happy outlook. This has come from healthy eating, exercise, surfing, challenging myself to do things out of my comfort zone, having good friends/family and working for myself doing something I enjoy.

At least you can look forward to hours of old people sex, with the aid of little blue pills

It seems like hangovers and hppd are a bad mix.... i've had some hellish times. But, drinking is a good laugh and certainly takes my thoughts away from hppd for a while. So.. what are everyone's hangover cures? Klonopin kicks most hangovers into touch, but are there any alternatives you have found?

Yea, it seems so... thankfully the odd klonopin does work wonders... so at least I am not immune to every med!

Nothing much to report, i'm afraid. No effect on visual (good or bad) and no effect on dp/dr. It might be worth looking at if you suffer badly from anxiety though.... Luckily, I don't suffer much from that anymore, but have not had any anxiety while on this med. Maybe coincidental, but could be worth a try.

I tried it, didn´t see any noticable effects, good or bad, I know a few people have benefited though, for anxiety... didn't feel any extra energy. had no pain at the time, so can´t comment on that.

I'm another long termer (got hppd in 1995)... as Year 2 said.... If you can get into the right way of thinking, life really does improve. since getting this, I have finished school, university, set up a business, got married, travelled the world, now live in a foreign country and have friends from all over the world. How you cope is all about determination to not let this illness ruin your life and getting your mindset in the right place.... If you fight it with all the will you would fight, say, cancer... you have a great chance to live a sucessful life. in social situations... that is where the real fight begins.. it is so easy to hide away, but if, day by day, you try and do a little more to interact with everyone around you.. it soon becomes second nature again.

I for one thank you for your post.... We need more people to post about the negatives of klonopin addiction here as it seems to be more overlooked on this new board.

Nothing to stop you trying both..... give Keppra a shot and have klonopin when required (I did this for a year, worked out well).

It seems very weak to me.... a little less anxiety and dp/dr. I might try upping the dose this week. From what I have read, there is no tolerance/addiction, which is good... and very little to no memory loss or sedation. At this point, I don't hold out much hope on this as a treatment for hppd, but it may help with anxiety. As I said, anxiety is something I don't get in a huge way, so perhaps someone more anxious should try this out.... It is well perscribed in France and other euro countries... so must do something.

Great post Ludwig.... as much as it seems impossible right at this second... It is best to try to take some positives from the bad situation you are in (and any bad situation that life throws at you). We have a saying here in england... every cloud has a silver lining... meaning that you can always find something good in a bad situation. Stay as positive as possible. Good luck, Jay

Why naltrexone? Have you heard anything about it with regard to hppd? Reading the wiki, I can't see the benefits.

Any thoughts as to why it works? From a look on wiki, it doesn't really mention anxiety

I start yesterday.. 3 x 50mg per day. No noticable signs of visual change but felt no anxiety and less dp/dr yesterday (although I don't suffer too badly from anxiety anymore).... I'll keep you posted.

Sorry, you're right... I was thinking dopamine antagonists such as anti.pysch meds. Always get them mixed up!

I have been thinking over how to approach this post, as I don't wont to offend or belittle people who took the benzo route, early on... please note that I am not judging anyone... Just adding my thoughts. Please also note that I am not against Klonopin use and take 1.5mg at least once a week, sometimes 2 or 3 times... i have also had 2-3 weeks on 2mg occasionally to get me through some torrid times. As a short term aid, it can be very beneficial.... But taken everyday, it can soon get out of control. I get PMs occasionally about what meds to try and klonopin is top of everyone's wishlist. I want to write a warning that people should think long and hard about taking this medication everyday. It is the most effective medicine we currently have and alot of people who are in their first year of hppd and are scared and desperate will jump straight onto it, sometimes without enough research. I implore anyone reading this to think about it carefully and really research dosage, addiction and most importantly, withdrawal. I am thankful to members of the old board who relayed awful horror stories to us about withdrawal and that was enough to convince me that I should do my best to never get addicted. Hopefully some users here can add in with some similar stories because it feels like the new board does not contain enough info on benzo withdrawal combined with hppd. If you are in your first year.. try to resist the quick fix and learn to cope with your hppd, as best you can. What scares me the most is the thought of people who never learned to cope with this shit, and then have to suffer with hppd AND benzo withdrawal. Sorry if this sounds preachy... but it is a point worth making, I think.

Although I don't want to put a dampener on your hope from the 1st link, please note that the person was on 3mg of klonopin... that is alot, and would.. in my opinion, make it nearly impossible to say whether the other drug did anything. I've been on these boards for some years now.. and one off stories pop up here and there, but to my knowledge, there are only 2 drugs that seem to benefit a decent % of users. One is benzos, which are not a cure and should really be used as an occasional aid or when you are really desperate (imho) the benefits of a few years relief are far outweighed by the long and awful withdrawal process... The other is Keppra, which seems less likely to do anything, but has no risk of tolerance/addiction. For the most part, SSRIs and dopamine agonists make things worse for hppd sufferers.

You should only ever be allowed to call it "american football" or "rugby with steel cages and helmets"

The loss of medication details and experiments is a real, real shame.

ahh, i thought you were talking about proper football... you know, the one you play with your feet.

Please read up some of the horror stories on klonopin addiction/withdrawal I feel like i'm banging my head against a wall sometimes.... Unless you are suicidal, I really don't think getting addicted to something that IS going to cause you a huge nightmare in the coming years is a very bad idea. It really should be a last resort when you can no longer cope. Within a few years, you will have hppd, an addiction and a huge withdrawal battle ahead. Sometimes it is best to do things the hard way.... try and stay off medications and learn to cope with your hppd rather than diving into meds. I wish some of the old users like Scott were still around to emphasise this point.

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