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No you do not understand, why not seriously trying to find an explanation? And I am paying attention to everyone but I still think there is no hope if we just wait, it is my opinion, it didn't change, sorry.

Both of you, sorry if I already asked. How old are you, what do you do, when you got HPPD, what your HPPD looks like and how it changed with time? Colforbin that scale is no bullshit it is very true. About finding an explanation, why not try? It is not impossible. Sorry for the short answer I took 1mg of klonopin it is a small dose but I'm feeling very drowsy I have to sleep.

I don't know why people think I ignore them, I read everything you say, if I don't answer something is because there's nothing more to say. But I honestly won't believe I will get better until I find the explanation of what is going on. Sorry if I'm repeating myself, but I just can't understand how, with all the current technology, they can't figure out the cause of HPPD. Not a cure, just the cause! I mean, they can trap antimatter on magnetic fields but can't track the malfunctioning of a few neurons? HPPD is not even a mysterious disease. We know what causes it, we can reproduce it easily and we know where to look to. So why we have no answers yet? Is there something so difficult on understanding neurobiology I'm not heard of or it is just lack of fundings and interest? If it's a lack of fundings/interest I am seriously considering dedicating my life to HPPD. Joining a medicine school, studying madly and accumulating funds so I could achieve something in some future. But my mind is so fucked up I don't know if I still have the capacity to do so. (I had - I used to be the best student of my school).

I have read some posts of that ShiaolinBomber on bluelight and he had indeed the greatest knowledge about HPPD. I have tried to contact him but unfortunatelly he is banned. =\

Well but Dr.Lerner used the right term too and what would explain 8 people reporting an improvement on their symptoms? Just asking, because Self-Report-Scale is the same method used on that other paper he treats patients with clonazepam. Also I wonder why they use that scale instead of testing the visuals by themselves, ie the flickering light, or measuring the duration of afterimages. It is good to know some people reported no worsening on risperdone. Is there a chance that anti-psychotics are a potential treatment, and that we don't know it because nobody uses them afraid of getting worse? Actually the whole risperidone thing is weird. It does affect 5HT2A but as an antagonist, while LSD is an agonist. It does not make any sense that 5HT2A antagonist causes visuals. It made much sense when I read clonidine helps being an alpha2 agonist and risperidone prejudices being an alpha2 antagonist. And did I understand right? You basically said clonazepam is a cure when it works. This is awesome. It did work on me. At 1.5mg I could MEASURE a reduction on my afterimages. So it works for me. But then, again, how safe is using clonazepam like that?

Pardon? I couldn't understand this entire paragraph. What do you think about this? http://hppd.stormloa...clonidine2.html Clonidine is an alpha2 agonist. There is also a paper saying risperidone worsens HPPD because of alpha2 antagonism (http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?ID=1247&C=HPPD). Can you help me finding the whole paper?

Do you guys think that trying using clonazepam 4mg just once is a good idea just to check if it will have positive effects on me?

Clonazepam, Levetiracetam, Clonidine and that new drug used by Dr.Abraham that he ask not to be posted on internet. Is it right? Any other?

For those who know something about that new treatment... do you think it works? Is it pratical?

Don't you think that actually no meds work? That we got brain damage and those saying the meds worked were under the effects of the medication (stopped caring) or maybe had not HPPD just psychological?

THERE IS NO HOPE! LarryC what is Hike and Strain? You got better then you used another drug in "hike and strain" (?) and became worse again?

Oh thanks, but that is not what I meaned. I already knew all of that. It's because you said that on the other forums there were lots of cases reports of drugs that worked for some so I would you to cite some of those remedies. I would love to browse the old forums and make some statistics and conclusions to myself. It is gone forever?

I only used LSD once. With exception of smoking a few joints, I never used any other recreative drug, not even alcohol / nicotine. My life was perfect. Now it's ruined. 2 months in hell. HELL. You guys are bothered with your visuals. What you don't realize is that HPPD is not a visual disease. Our entire brain is damaged. The visuals are just the obvious part. You don't notice, but you are fucked up, and it's forever. Your thoughts are fucked up, your memory is fucked up, your concentration, visual memory, spatial and logical thinking... everything is somewhat affected. And there is no healing. It is a lie. Nobody ever recovers from HPPD. People just treat their anxiety, and those who say to healed just learned to live. But the fact is: the damage will never go away. Deal with that if you can. Can you? I can't. I can't take it anymore. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me. People underestimate how horrible is that condition. I would EASILY trade HPPD for paraplegia. I'm so sad. I didn't deserve that. I won't kill myself ONLY because of those I love. ='(

You said they had lots of information on the old boards regarding drugs, treatments with varying success rate... can you summarize the drugs, supplements, etc., that are worth trying to either cure the visuals or ease them WITHOUT the *absurd* drawbacks of a benzo? NOTE: have you tried that new treatment of Dr.Abraham?

Well you can keep trace of a fly flight so it's easier to catch it... You can read a text with your eyes closed... You can write on air using a lantern... When you see a pretty thing you see TWO pretty things! Two suns, two rainbows, two girlfriends... It's almost a superpower...

=\ I sadly, sadly... understand. Thank you. ... ='/

Something happened to us after using hallucinogens. Let's think, guys. Physics is not magic, we CAN find out what went wrong. We do not have to accept this condition. We are trying to find randomly a cure, a remedy, well, bad news, it won't work! Perhaps there's not any molecule in the world that can heal us. But if we find out what is broken we will be very close to finding out solid ways of speeding out our recovery or perhaps even a cure. The first suggestion is that it is related to post-synaptic 5HT2A receptor damage on GABAergic neurons on the visual cortex, leading to a reduced ability of our brain to stop processing visual stimulus. So, is this true? Can we test that hypothesis? If it's not true, then, what is? If it is true, then what can we do to fix it? Please, let's think, let's study, let's do something! I can't believe on your apathy, I can't believe on the lack of posts in this forum, in your indulgence. What's up with you, have you all give up already?

mustbenu what was your dosage? Dukkha and others please answer my doubt above.

But what about that paper saying they got a sustained improvement after 2 months of 2mg klonopin? http://journals.lww.com/intclinpsychopharm/Abstract/2003/03000/Clonazepam_treatment_of_lysergic_acid.7.aspx

Yes, it is, I always see things doubled, the 'ghost' is usually placed above.

This post was one of the most helpful since I got HPPD. Everything you said made enormous sense. The timeline and details of the facts. I still had that doubt if brain could actually heal from HPPD with time. Well, seems it can. Now I just have to find out how. Maybe Wellbutrin helped. You are the third person that mentioned it positively. Also, eating and exercise probably plays an important role, so, can you tell me how much exercise you had and what you ate (proteins, vitamins, supplements?). Thank you very very much for this post. Can you give me a way to contact you if I have further questions? See you.

When you said there is some very exciting news I thought it was a new treatment :\ But OK I'll fill the survey. Can I contact you? Thanks. EDIT: it's buggy. It often says I didn't answer a question that I have answered (like, "0" was the answer) or that have no answer (when it asks for me to rank the drugs that effected my HPPD when no drug changed it at all).

Why nobody answers this question? Does the klonopin treatment, when it works, ACTUALLY reduce your VISUAL SYMPTOMS? Not like "I don't pay attention anymore lalala" but do it ACTUALLY reduce them? Also, when klonopin is discontinued, will the visuals come back?

I have got HPPD after a strong LSD dose but the HPPD itself does NOT bother me that much, it's the fact since then I fell "lightheaded", "sluggish", with a "brain fog". I'll try to explain with examples: * When I'm talking to my friends I need a lot of effort to understand the conversation. I answer slowly because it takes lot of time for me to understand and process an answer. I'm always saying "pardon?" so they have to repeat what they said like if I didn't heard. But I'm hearing perfectly... it's actually an excuse so I can process the info while they repeat... *facepalm* * Reading complicated texts is very difficult. I feel like my head is exploding... * When I have to do simple things like shopping and I have to put an extreme effort to do everything right... for instance, I have to think constantly in what I'm doing like "OK, now I have to tell the attendant what I want." - "OK, now I have to wait." - "OK, now I pay..." - it doesn't flow naturally. And many other things like that. Please, please, if anyone identify with those symptoms or have any idea of what is happening to me, please, tell me. Is it part HPPD? If not, what could that be? It and HPPD started at the same time, but I don't know if they are the same problem or something different. I just want to know what is it. And if I will be better. It's destroying my life. I don't like living anymore.

Thanks you very much ColForbin, that's awesome. Can I ask a few more questions? Why after everything you said you still doubt if your visuals got better? Also, how you got HPPD? And it's interesting you started to get better just after you realized what you had. Any relation? Did you use any remedy? Dukkha. How and when it started? Did the visuals really got better or you just don't notice them?