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How is the MDMA HPPD??... Do you still feel like tripping???.....A friend of me recently recieved HPPD from MDMA ...... My LSD-HPPD has no DP/DR, also the visuals keep very low, but that seems to be a rare case...... i think HPPD is completely or can be completely individual, some have visuals some not, some have DP/DR some not.... youd´have to find it out yourself, but if i´d be you i would stay away from this forum , not meaned bad, but may you could introduce some psychosis that you wouldnt had recieved. (You wouldnt know the he )...nmy visual snow came after 2 weeks, and only after researching HPPD, but hey, if you see that your symptoms are "stabe" keep going

ui nooo, then it´s the wrong one i meaned, i wanted a MDMA replacement, mCPP, sorry i missed it, too similiar names Anyways that one gave me too much reaction for such a soft drug, my friend was chilling hard while i almost wasnt able too see straight cause everything washed around.....MPTP sounds mad, Parkinson causing drug, who the fuck would have the idea to take this??....Desomorphine also, inctredible what people do for a flash.,.,..Did anyone of you got the book Pihkal or Tihkal???....Ive seen that the german Erowid has more drugs in the databse than the english one...and maybe there are some entries that you cant see that wouldnt be ok, they should share all information on all languages.....

Surely i stopped this, this is absolutely not positive so ill stay off The voices disappeared after stopping it, defenately too much this kratom......its really scaring when you lie in your bed and think youre on a beach with people screaming....seems to be normal with HPPD hm??...always thought that the bodyload would be heavy but not such things like sound disortions...yeah im staing away from any drugs or mediaments for atleast 3 weeks, then ill do some try´s again, recently recieved a MPTP a replacement, recived some washy optics, a bit too heavy for that soft drug, thats why i decided to do a short pause . Jay what caused your HPPD, also LSD?

No no, it´s not dead, it just takes a bit untill youll get a answer, its always like this ........Ive got a question......What would happen, if you have HPPD by LSD, you know it changes the 5HTA2 receptor, and then get another HPPD by a 5HTA2-affecting Drug??..:Would the old HPPD like be "overwritten" or is it not possible to have 2 HPPD´s at the same time??......I´m asking this because i try Drugs to see how they affect HPPD, and i didn´t touched any 5HTA2-affecting Drugs except 2-CB (i think it affects it)...and nothing gave me a trip like that 2-CB , defenately a higher feedback then anormal human without HPPD would have...

So guys following: before a month ive been looking for a drug that could replace weed for me, so something that isn´t too strong...... So i ve drunk every day around 8-12g of it, it´s been a mix of Bali red Vein, SuperThai and Malaisian Premium...... The first 3 weeks i really thought i found something that could replace me the weed......but only the first 3 weeks..... Maybe some opioid users know the flash, when you close your eyes and the feeling pushes you up, when you open it its away again......also ive been fucking happy all day and feeled like high, i had weed and even didnt smoked it because i liked the flash so much......but the last week this Kratom ate me......... The whole day started normal, i wake up, set on a tee, eat some sandwiches and drink it then....on empty stomach the flash hits you after around 15 minutes, it´s really pleasent with the bread so you dont feel so uncomfortable. The whole day also goes on normal...untill i go to sleep........i always turn my TV on too sleep so i have some background noise......i lied on the bed closed my eyes.......suddenly there came noises like waves, like i would be on a beach.....for around 5 minutes.....later some Female voices came in screamed like theyd have a orgasm or something.....and the opioid feeling pushed soooooo hard in with that wavesounds and the voice........i wasnt able to sleep because always when i closed my eyes, the waves started and then voices came in....i never expirienced sound disortions like that...i mean real fucking voices.......that´s way too much for me........so i turned the tv off, and i slept in great.......so on the following day i thought i have took too much, but i was wrong.......the next night this shit came again, again waves and voices, sometimes a man screaming ioioioioioi or the woman again..... After that i decided to stop drinking it for some days to see if this is permanent........happily it wasnt, without drinking i didnt recieved it, but when i used kratom on a not regular base (like 1 time a week) i didnt recieved this......i had 14gs of it in and didnt had voice disortments, ive been sweating like hell so defenately a overdose, but no voices.....so what is causing this voices??...A overdose on a not regularbase didnt gave me voices......but a small amount of kratom on a regularbase gave me voices...as mentioned, the first 3 weeks i didnt heared voices......i´m a bit worried about that this voices come from me, my brain, and not the kratom.... so what i want to know: I would like to hear your expiriences with kratom on a long- and short-term use, if it introduced some psychosis or affected a psychosis you had......also im interested in what symptoms you recieved, while having HPPD or not.....Sorry for the long Text, have a nice day eh

Normally, you should worry if you wouldnt be depressed over the first weeks, thats a completely normal reaction on what happened to you .....So DP/DR for the first weeks should be normal.....i can imagine that some people : suffered HPPD, recieved DP/DR, went to this board, readed that it never went off, and recieved then DP/DR forever....if they normally would have lost that....My symptoms also have been worse the first 3 weeks, the visuals almost have been as strong as on the trip, happily i learned really fast to learn to live with it, and the symptoms deacreased really well.... first i thought i would have a DR too, but isn´t a strange feeling after such a strong expierence normal??...so what may feels like a DR isn´t a DR, it just feels alike because you´re not accustomed to it.....if you wouldn´t know that, you would start to worry abou when it´s ending, you´d think everyday about it atleast one time because HPPD is everywhere....and in that state i think you can get a prior psychosis that will let you live your entire life with it because you thought it would be DR, but it wasn´t .......ayayay i would give you all my money to speak one day english as good as a folksman.... love the story with the Irish guy hahaha

Don´t worry, I hate Anti-Depressiva as im always confident about myself and happy SSRI´s are not welcome in my Body ...I think on long usage they would fuck my personality, dopamin-system fragged or anything like that....Everyone tells you you should let the fingers from drugs while having HPPD and eat healthy and so on: Seriously it´s a good advise, and any newbie better shouldnt read things i post, but maybe that lifechanging is also not good for you, because you got thrown completely into a new world, not only the HPPD also your way to life, so that may distances you from yourself so much that that may increase the derealisation and DP......Anyways i´m glad that i tried all these drugs, cause my HPPD really got better, even if this are drugs, they may trigger same things as my HPPD or LSD has done to me.....My VS and trailing reduced greatly, the feeling about myself also is like before HPPD again , i´m even more confident about myself then before HPPD, only the Headache is worrying me a bit as i didn´t had that at the beginning of HPPD.....but i´m sure some aspirins or stronger meds can supress or kill that too.... "Know", i just can do this because i dont have any personality-disortions like DP/DR or Panic attacks...i feel almost completely same just having fucking optics.....and i think the optics only are like 30% of a real HPPD....Feelings influence you ways more then Visuals....That would fuck me hard, not being the master of my own feelings :/ Edit: Maybe Members here don´t like to hear that someone is taking such stuff while HPPD, i can understand that completely, but if no one has tryed this yet, and no one has cured untill now, there must be something on....i mean all the meds you get from the doc also have effects on you brain-chemic, same as these drugs

So my expierience with this is ...absolutely not good....i saw some people here in brunswick wich also suffered HPPD, some of Shrooms and some of LSD too.....They had BIG problems to accept the HPPD. As result of that they won´t tell you anything about your symptoms so you dont have to think they´re psycho´s.....Worst case i talked to was a 19 Year old guy wich suffered HPPD by LSD. He didnt accepted his HPPD, and achieved a big psychosis letting him ending taking 2 Acid-Cubes (Yes, Double-Dosage then 1 Blotter) every weekend because he thought he wouldnt have HPPD.....But that just came because he "downed" the symptoms, ignored them, and lived his life like he has done before...The funniest on the thing: He was wondering why the symptoms enhance...I understand people and mostly can understand why they do what they do, but that guy was incredible...i told him his symptoms come from LSD (he had some symptoms i had, just stronger), he said no way, i take this almost every weekend and all is fine...in that moment i said nothing anymore, thats a fucking psychosis, having optics without taking drugs, but saying it´s not coming from it... Anyways i talked to some HPPD Sufferers and it really wont help you, because mostly they dont even know theirselves what the fuck is going on with them... thats my expierence, but 99% of the germans even dont know what HPPD is so i think it depends on how informed your country is

my state didn´t changed, i don´t feel high, don´t have DP/DR, maybe a Half Blotter LSD isn´t enough to get such symptoms....The first 2 Weeks i had DP but that gone really fast so i could start my "new Life" very confident

hmm..So i get this fucking headache more often then normally, it´s also starting to annoy me , and im really not stressed out here in Brunswick. I never have been depressive but i almost every time see Auras (Light yellow glowing), especially when i look into the mirror or People, other prescription drugs i dont take, cause its harder to me to get those then illegal drugs ( Funny Germany he). .... I think i wont have any problems with these small amounts, and as all these dont have stimulant effects i only can got out good there:D I also had a few Overdoses ...and i always got out really well, once i had ~1000mg´s of MDMC, we´ve been in a disco and my friend put that in the beer so they all can share, me totally Mindfucked by MDMA, took the beer, ex it so all´s empty...me totally happy sitting down, while they tell me there´s been 4x MDMC´s in.....you know, if you get Optics from MDMC, you defenately know something is going wrong...my freinds have been completely in panic about me but i said to them: Hey fucking chill, everythings allright, i still stand, i only talk shit and have tons of fun, so why to worry?....what i want to explain: i often had some fuckers where other people would say "Stop" but i always stay positive and get fine again ....thats why im also fucking pissed off that i got the HPPD from a half LSD Blotter......Totally senseless if i compare some other consumptions i had....you must give me atleast 150mg´s of Zantac so i could start to worry ;D

So i´m going to try it, i weight 78 to 80 so that fits perfect, thing is this is expensive to me so ive got to wait until 1st, but would be awesome to take something not druggy what could help me so im defenately awaiting for the results Edit: I cant get Ancu but Ibubeta, also Ibuprofen , in total all costs 70€ :/ And yes, my HPPD is only Visual, i dont have anxiety panic attacks or DP, and i still use drugs...on HPPD i tryed: MDMC,MDMA,Opiat-Rebuilds,Speed,Cokain,2-CB,Acohol,Kratom and Shrooms. Since my HPPD i think im sensetive to Amphetamines and Alcohol also 2-CB fucked me hard, it´s a meskalin-rebuild so i think i´m sensitive to those too. And on a regular Basis (every 2nd Weekend) i use MDMA or MDMC and Weed almost every day, because these two dont affect the HPPD, they dont enhance my symptoms.....i also cant understand that some people here say MDMA is really worse for HPPD, i used this drug also before HPPD and i still get the same results just that they last longer then a normal guy would use them, but no increases in effects only duration

So i could order the Imigran , 6 pills for 47 Bucks, a 50mg , and the Zantics i can get for 7 bucks a 75mg so no problem to order them

My doc also diagnosed me with IBS, she said thats just a meaning for that noone knows what you have......i always get stomach hurtings when i eat things like Noodles or Pizza.....worst is Ben & Jerry´s but its so tastyyyy ...i thought first it would be a lactose-allergic reaction, but they tested me on it and said than i got IBS. They don´t give me any med´s for or anything else, i´m fucked up here .......But i dont think that Scopolamine would be the best option for this, i mean such a hard trip just to get away some stomachhurtings is way too heavy.....ever read a tripreport on Erowid about Scopolamine??...i think the least problem you´d have would be the stomach hurting...

I wasnt able to find the "about 2CB" section, also on fullscreen didnt find it, sorry, but i found the list of Symptoms very interesting, heres a the list of symptoms i recieved : The first 30 Minutes: - Sense of touch and perception of own Body - Colours and shapes become more distinct - Sounds and music becomes more distinct (Like standing in a Hall) - CEV´s - Sweating - Halos around Object´s - Micropsia - Macropsia - Distressed Feeling - Flashes of Colours - Objects move like Waves, Faces deform - Trailing intensified - Intense Blurring Then after 1 Hour: - Colours and shapes become more distinct - Sounds and music becomes more distinct (Like standing in a Hall) - CEV´s (Really Intense) - Kalaidoskopia (Fucking Intense) - Colour-Flashes As at that point i wasnt able to see anything anymore i cant tell what symptoms have been there, i only saw everything like 8 times turning around and blurring, really a Kalaidoskop-simulation, fucking intense . 2 Hours after Kalaidoskopia : - Objects move like Waves - Ghosting, always present, normally not - Trailing always present, also normally not - Intense Mindfuck - Sound become more distinct - Blurring - Discomforted feeling - Sense of Touch and Perception of own Body - Halo´s - Colour-Flashes - Objects move like Waves, Faces still deforming - Not stiff but hard to move the Neck - Sweating sets in again After the trip, Hangover : - Insomnia - Ghosting increased - Trailing in perceptionfield, - Trailing increased - Difficult concentrating - Bodyfeeling enhanced, not comparable to the Trip´s bodyfeeling, anyways a bit trippy - Colourflashes , small blinking dots - negative afterimages increased - feeling like tripping when it´s dark After recovering: -Trailing is almost away, just get the feeling that it comes, but things dont mix up and dont get blurry - Visual Snow decreased to like nothing, only see things refreshing but no dots - Afterimages decreased again but still like before the trip - Bodyfeeling is very good, dont feel trippy but i´m feeling just more "Full" - Halos increased, get them more often and brighter - Increased Heartrate sometimes (Got that too from MDMA sometimes, this will went off in some weeks i think) - Sweaty Hands - Ghosting also decreased to normal again - Headache at the backside also is away today without aspirin, got that since around 2 weeks so that must come from something else - When i look into the sky i see no dots, but refreshing and tracers still there - Sometimes i see like black smoke when its bright , but they didnt appeared the last days - When its really bright i cant open my eyes sometimes because everything is shining, yesterday it was really shiny and i almost was able to see all normally, reflecting things where still too much for me but atleast not all was too bright. I´m really sorry i didnt found the section, its upon the Tables ?? Also searched that with textfinder and didnt found , im really sorry... They tell there that the effects are milder then those of LSD or Mescaline, i defenately can not agree that, never had such a fucked up trip like this. On 6th July (Birthday of my friend) i tripped 7 Drugs at the same time: Alcohol, Speed, Cocain, Kratom, Ganja, MDMA and MDMC, (first and only time i recieved optics of MDMC , as its been the last i dropped) and the whole trip even wasnt a bit fucked up like the small amount of 2-CB, also my shroomtrip would be laughable compared to the 2-CB trip....... So defenately the HPPD enhances it OR i´m sensetive to it OR this wasn´t 2-CB, something comparable with more duration and intensety....

So today i have completely recovered from the trip, and achieved some positives: My Visual Snow has reduced alot, i still have the lets call it refresshrate, but when i look at Black things i see the black without white dots, I never feeled like tripping or had Anxietey or Depressions but i noticed that a bit of me died when i recieved the HPPD, while HPPD i wake up with the same feeling, everyday, i didnt got pissed off and i also didnt got reallly happy, just feeling always the same....But today i woke up and had a completely other feeling, it´s more "warm"....May sound strange to you but when im on the street and see cars, they just didnt feeled to me like cars, more like objects, also with people, i just realize them different then before HPPD......You know the feeling when ur stoned from weed and think that the cars look at you??...I was also a bit paranoid before HPPD but today i really thought everyone is looking at me, didnt had that since HPPD so thats an achievement for me because i noted today that the surrounding of me gives me some response....... Unfortunately i got some increase in afterimages, they just stay longer then usually, but i can live with that in comparison how the VS and the bit of DR affected me. The indirect trailing is also away, as it only appeared after the trip im fucking happy it went ......Also my normal trailing is also almost reduced to nothing, when i stare i notice that im having some trailing but the objects dont move, so im only having the feeling of trailing without having it....really hard to explain if youre not english..... Im really happy about that and my headache is also gone since 2 days now, thanks to aspirin ...... So i only can say that in the end i went out really well, ways better then before, but the trip at itself was horrifying. I only had one big achievement like this when taking shrooms, my ghosting was pushed into the background by it so it wasnt present all the time, it only appeared then when the trailing was setting in, normally its been always present, everything ghosted........So i defenately can say that taking 2-CB helped me, but maybe this all is just being covered from the 2-CB but i dont hope so and think so , because im feeling completely like before HPPD, still with some visuals but my bodyfeeling on itself got back to basics, so im , makes me fucking happy

Yeah, Bees is the StreetName for 2-CB , more common its called Nexus ....So the first thing i recieved was a trippy feeling like MDMA mixed with the atmosphere of LSD, the music sounded like i would sit in a big hall, after that the optics started, first really smooth but they didnt stop to intensify until i reached the Kalaidoskopia. The faces of my friends have been wobbling around and blurred untill they had no faces anymore, and that just was at the beginning........Today i still got a bit the feeling of tripping, but it defenately reduced compared to yesterday. My ghosting is still more then normally, hopefully this will go away in some days...... Did you also had like small round colourflashes blinking on and off shortly??.....didnt had that afterwards so im defenately coming down, but the effects really last way too long, i expected like 2 days max and im feeling shitty since 5 now Ive took 2,5g shrooms one time, (Thats an overdose for me) and the plateu maked like 25% of the 2-CB, so its really strong acting.... I noted that im like calmed, not so nervous anymore but i notice how im still fucked up a bit of it... 7 I tryed alot of drugs with my HPPD now and researching on them for knowing what will come to you when you will trip wont help....I researched on the dosages and durations on Erowid, but no one of the informations there have been correct for me. May its my HPPD or its just really wrong information, but drugs effects differ for each person so may im really sensitive to it....

Also thought about aspirin but i never took pills against ever in my life cause i think they put in coffeine so your headache gets worse...So my brain would get it the first time, dont need them .....And for Ibuprofen i have to go to the doc, and only headache is not enough to get the ibos Also heard that weed has some stuff in that supresses hallucinatipns, so you normally would get optics from smoking it ....i will see if this stays for a few weeks if it goes away as im back in Braunschweig and dobnt have so much stress

So as promised here´s my short expierience to the effects of 2-CB i recieved... So the first 20 minutes i just recieved a feeling like tripping again, i mean exactly like fucking LSD, really a big mindfuck for me...so i recieved an hour later such a hard Kalaidoskopia that i wasnt able to do anything...i saw everything like 5 to 6 times in my visionfield, so it was absolutely not pleasant, colourflashs and a sounddisortion , ...there strangely i enjoyed it, but afterwards it wasnt funny at all... after 2 hours around i came down a bit and my Ghosting was unbelievable, everything was blurred, ..... The trailing was always existing, i didnt had to stare and wait, its always been there and messed up all together so i had at the end only big ugly something..Fucking ugly trip, seroiusly.....After around 40 hours i was able to sleep, i mean this normally should go at such a low dose up to 20 Hours max. So yeah that was the trip, now to the effects i got from afterwards: My Visual Snow increased but decreased afterward, before its been like looking tv really mad The Ghosting defenately increased, i mean the fucking table is porting to me ... Now the really shitty part: When i look for example at my laptop and write etc. things around the laptop get a bit blurry, never had that before, that really sucks...but at the the end of the day this also decreased, just got to wait some more days untill i can see if something has really longlasting effects......The trailing also increased, things disappear because the trailing mixes all with all, got to stare really short untill it comes...... I also feel a bit shitty about myself, so defenately a hangover, lasting since 2 days now......It wasnt worth yes, but the first hangover-day the symptoms where even more mad, in the dark i thought i would trip again, so defenately not worth to take.... ive took shrooms, Methylone, MDMA Crystals and so on and NOTHING, i mean NOTHING was so mad as 2-CB, and my Dose was only 13mg at 78Kg. Seroiusly stay off 2-CB !

Hey People, so im in Holland since a Month now, the first week i smoked high Quality weed (Dutch-Weed is fucking awesome ) but now i dont have enough money and cant buy more....so since 3 weeks im clean of weed and all other shit, the first time since 3 years......My Visual Snow decreased but strangely now i jump "Frames" and have a light Headache at the Backside of my head. It´s like lightsources would turn off for some Miliseconds, like jumping a FPS. I never had that before and only appears since i stopped smoking. I got that really often a day and just wondered if someone had the same symptoms? Unfortunately i can start smoking again in 1 or 2 days so right now i cant tell if it will go away if i start smoking again. I dont know if the Headache comes from my work (07:00-18:00), its really stressing because i have to do Quality-Control here and have to concentrate alot, or if its binded to the not-smoking, OR if its from the Weed i smoked here....Anyways im having lots of fun here

Is it the shape in the room or is just on your visionfield?, i got that too when its really shiny outside, i see like black smoke floating around on my visionfield, also i cant open my eyes when its too bright, they got really sensitive.......But Dude Ayahuasca is fucked uppppppp, i gonna try 2-CB and i think Ayahuasca tops that a hundred times.....you should definately stop with that if youre already having small symptoms.....you know, i never would try plant-drugs (Except Kratom), theyre mostly attached to an intoxication too, you should watch out

Kratom is legal in many countrys in europe, as it is sold as Ethnobotanic illustration material, you can order it easily on the internet.......may it blown your HPPD because there are more then 30 Ingerdients wich act: Indol- and Oxyindolalkaloide like Ajmalicin, Corynanthedin, Isomitraphyllin, Mitragynalin, Mitragynin, Mitraphylin, Mitraversin, Paynanthein, Speciogynin, Speciofolin und Stipulatin, the mainingerdient is Mitragyn. So i think atleast one of these blowed you up

I´ve tried some opium Re-builts and those influenced my HPPD clearly, my visual snow was increased and Trailing Ghosting too, my HPPD only is visual, it only relaxed me as i would be hardcore stoned from weed, as i dont have anxiety or panicattacks i cant tell you how it influences your personality, but the lets say "Trips" are always different...when i take kratom the perception enhancement sometimes differs , even using the same dosage, i think it depends on yourself...example: Lets say you take ecstasy without knowing , i think that would increase your visuals, but if you take with knowledge then you know what comes and it doesnt feels so strong anymore....Also the first Opiat-rebuild-Trip i had didnt enhanced my perceptions, but those after it did, dont know why

I still take drugs because my HPPD reeeaalllllyy soft, i dont feel like tripping, when i see ghosting its hard to note it because its so low, the only perception for me would be the visualsnow wich i see clearly and the trailing, so i cant stare anymore... i dont have flashes of colours, colourchanging or anything, only a bit of enhanced colour.. .I note the HPPD when taking other drugs, ive took tons of MDMC and it didnt enhanced the hppd, but alcohol (Social seen less worse then MDMC) affected me reaallyy bad, so thats why im testing...the only hallucinogens i would take would be 2-CB, Shrooms and MDA, not more not less ...... so right now im in rotterdam cause of work, but on 31st ill arrive back to braunschweig and can tell you then my expierience, i planned to take 8mg nasal, cause i dont want a long duration, i think like this: if you cant live without drugs, you got to learn to live with drugs.

It´s just nowhere mentioned, i really wonder why

What the.....did you had an overdose or was it just your mind....you know i got stucked by a half blotter, i dont think there was an overdose the reasond.....It´s said that 2-CB is a bit like LSD, all my freinds tell me it isn´t so i wanted to test it....but you let me think about right now...the only drug i considered that did´nt influenced my hppd was methylone, all others had visual effects on the symptoms...