Spartan

What is really concerning os that , visuals are so complex, vivid, distressing etc is that I'm finding it hard just to exist to face and endure them any further. ( for some type of bullshit relief I will try berry my head in my phone as a distraction attempt) I feel like I'm very depersonlalized when I do this as often hours will pass, it's always still there tho as soon as I put the phone down im just bombarded , engulfed and inundated to extreme levels that really find intolerable. Just thought I'd share this aspect as some mst have insight. Cheers.

This is no way to live F this Sh@T ( Venting ) Hopefully 4.5 mills should do it

Oh the dancing lady in the spotty suit I called a help line for someone to talk too after as the the psychedelic blizzard is all engulfing and f torture. Took additional K hoping for a knock out soon

Cool thankyou for sharing!!! Will reply as best I can having sone challenges reading as of late. I wish this site has a record button so we could just send each other voice messages lol Yeahh it's really interesting the symbology behind things! That's totally fine with me you can call me Sparta any time actually my traditional name is Limban Nabwan (received during full body tribal initiation) i.e. cutting. It's very Sparta like (the scarification and marking. Chest. Legs. Back and arms all in patterning and symbolism) actually the picture on my profile wall is the actual culture house / spirit house where the initiation took place over two week time frame. Tribal initiations are brutal. Yeahh can totally relate so close to loosing it from 6 mill K cold turkey with x 2 suicide attempts in the process, suffocation and cutting circulation. Some hard core shit happy to be through that now.. It really sounds like your mom has "abilities" in entering non ordinary states etc it would be soo cool to all go flying together!! Hehehe I think I recently seen that in a movie that was very witchy on Netflix (tho looked so fun) Yeah Stephanie is pretty cute lol the video is quite informative and she presents very well. No does sound so odd like your brain going floppy like a muscle as you described. To me it's just like a good description/ depiction. In those times it might be helpful to focus on the breath inhalation and exhalation, maybe ? Really hope you are ok with that now and feeling better.. I mean I often say very increasingly bizarre freakish things on here at times that readers likley think I'm a complete nutcase lol ! Maybe if I said I said that I did a brain fart that stunk alot and had psychedelic properties that might have sounded a little bit strange Your daughter sounds so amazing and sounds like she is dominating in her sport, Likley thanks to you for being such an awesome mother etc etc etc etc I'm just taking dinner now ! Enjoy your morning, lunchtime, evening etc whatever time it is hehe talk soon! If not we can always meet up on the astral plane

hey there. yes, absolutely it is really quite sinister! (was the closest image i could find to share resemblance) yes! that is totally full on what you are sharing in relation to CEV etc that sounds sooo FULL ON that would all come in the category of zoopsia also, the same as what Jay shared also. yeahh Hypnagogic and hypnopompic are so fascinating and extremely life like, a friend and mine Stephanie made a utube video on them. (i had a real crush on her back in the day lol) i will post it here . wow that is a trip and definitely sounds like astral travelling. Have only done once before when used to meditate frequently though obviously have had drug induced astral travel . How full on, it really sounds like your mom is a naturally gifted astral traveler! so cool you learnt about all that in school so could start connecting all the dots ! Your posts are definitely NOT annoying at all, and I / we always LOVE hearing from you! All your posts and sharing are awesome and super entertaining and informative / therapeutic etc etc its definitely nice to have a break though most definitely myself included. OKK well thanks for that. in currently taking approx 3 mills of klonopin in the evenings, also on 200 mg of lamotrigine mornings, though to be honest its not doing anything, klonopin does not take visuals away and its still occurring on 3 + mills, when it happens usually so heightened and often freaked / traumatizing that have to take at least another 2 mils of K to wind down and try to nock myself out.( so all up approx. 5 mils daily) All there meds are taking their toll, im generally sedated as fuck each norming and not really functional at all until 11 am. Though all this is really not doing anything, obviously helps with DP DR panic / anxiety etc though not visually. though all this has gotten alot worse with a very severely fucked up situation that i really dont want to share about on here. anyhow. Seems I am now definitely dependent on klonopin again. That Wellbutrin sounds like some pretty hardcore stuff! will definitely be avoiding that one hehe sounds very highly intense your reaction to it! Thankyou so much will continue to pray for you also!!! yeah i am a warrior though I feel anyone / everyone with HPPD are all truly warriors also. Tho must admit going cold turkey of 6 mills of klonopin was pretty warrior / heroic like lol Looking forward to sharing more soon, possibly may use this thread as a journal type of thing, it maybe beneficial for other sufferers etc. I did have another thread tho decided to "hide it" with Jays help. My Thoughts are with you. Take good care always

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Kind of an interesting take according to AI (although im sure there is alot more to it) HPPD Type 2 sufferers are indeed more susceptible to zoopsia, particularly in the evenings and before sleep. Reasons for increased zoopsia in the evenings: 1. *Relaxation and reduced distractions*: As the day winds down, individuals may relax and become less distracted, making them more aware of their surroundings and internal experiences, including zoopsia. 2. *Increased sensory sensitivity*: As the evening progresses, some people may experience increased sensitivity to sensory stimuli, such as light, sound, or touch, which can exacerbate zoopsia. 3. *Circadian rhythm influences*: The body's natural circadian rhythm can affect the intensity and frequency of zoopsia. For some individuals, the evening hours may coincide with a natural peak in cortisol levels, which can contribute to increased zoopsia. 4. *Anxiety and stress*: The evening hours can be a time of increased anxiety and stress for some individuals, particularly if they're worried about sleep or the next day's events. This heightened anxiety can contribute to more frequent or intense zoopsia. 5. *Sleep pressure*: As the body prepares for sleep, the pressure to fall asleep can increase, leading to heightened arousal and anxiety. This can, in turn, exacerbate zoopsia in some individuals. I feel like it may even possibly be induced by CEV causing dis-stress and inturn heightening more visuals to complete sensory overload, activating a myriad of Zoopsia hallucinatory phenomena.

Absolutely Jay. I'm very sorry to hear this! Can totally relate 100%. Me too mainly in CEV tho sometimes open eye. Yes evenings seems / are definitely more susceptible.

Hi there Mladen, welcome to hppd online.com message board! Thankyou for sharing your experiences with us. I can totally relate to many aspects of what you have shared. (I'm sure many other can too). Starting with a white dot. This might be considered as "geometric phosphenes" (seeing light without light penetrating the eye) and then sounds like things possibly evolved and symptom worsened from there. I was wondering have you been diagnosed with hppd ? Were these experiences triggered by a certain experience? Possibly drug induced? Often hppd symptoms are so vivid that I myself and others see and are open to other dimensions, world's, beings and dense colour as you describe, that are psychedelic in nature. When you are sharing about white dots that vibrate, In constant motion and making everything unclear, to me this sounds like heavy "visual snow" (another symptom of hppd) I too experience this symptom with eyes open and eyes closed , it does not matter and yes it is constant also. That is an interesting and cool graphic you shared.! To me it looks like "fractals" another visual phenomena of hppd or even superimpositions (self imposed or overlapping geometric patterns). Yes I see this too. I know it's very challenging with doctors and neurologists as the condition is not readily known by medical people. That's why sometimes it can be beneficial to do your best to educate them. This can be challenging though achievable with the right information. How are you coping now? Do you have any support networks ? Are you currently on any medication? I'm very sorry to hear you are dealing with these highly challenging experiences! I'm just randomly sharing what comes to me, though others may have different views. I hope this is helpful for a start. Please feel free to reach out to me at anytime (direct message) if you would like someone to talk too and explore aspects of this further relating to support or doing our best to find assistance or help for you. Kind regards.

Thankyou beautiful. I really appreciate your amazing ongoing support so much!!I I feel it's been partly induced by some very prolonged tough times. Yeah I have freaked the fuck out in numerous occasions one when I slit my wrist and another when ambos arrived etc etc Yes unfortunately it's gotten worse with a situational crisis ( majorly stressful situation).spanning over 2 and a half years /. Triggering the degeneration / exacerbation or acute symptoms. Unfortunately nothing helps even when on high doses of Klonopin (daily using) it happens. When vivid Zoopsia happens I just cannot tolerate it and end up taking additional klonopin (up to 2 mills extra or more ) just to nock myself out ASAP. Also on 200 mils of Lamotrogine daily. That's basically it. It's beyond horrid as is hppd tho just have to keep on keeping on for now. How are you ? I hope you have been well. I was missing you for a while there!! Always sending my warm wishes and you are in my prayers, thankyou for checking in