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I dont think HPPD is completely negligable. HPPD is what it is. anxiety, depression, and DP are another thing IMO. sorry if i pissed u off. I kinda expected that, sorry. Im just trying to emphasize that how we view it is what may cause problems. I am sorry. My HPPD isnt as bad as others :\. But i do have positive intentions. I am thinking about deleting this. What do u guys think?

thanks guys for the replies. interesting, StateofRegret. Jay, yeah I feel what ur saying. Afterimages, etc..., we have sensitive eyes. headlights are bad for human retinas anyways. Thats good to hear, u can still work. Yeah sports are like the best . especially for us. helps us feel normal again.

static ..... so what floaters .... so what starburst. .... idk what that is but they taste good pareidolia/faces ....... helps with creativity and is cute morphing ....... idk what to say lol maybe that could be a problem breathing ........ ok thats just weird lol it seems that people's viewpoint towards HPPD is what causes alot of mental illness, thats my point. I am not trying to downplay people. Please do not take offence, I am merely stating a point so that people can try not to view it as "omg im crazy" or something. if anyone wants me to delete this post I will opinions?

dont feel like spending 30 minutes to watch it. if anyone wants to sum up some main points ide love it. plz

Also, -sleep patterns (quality, consistant) super important in general. -eat healthy (organic, low sugar, sodium, fats, etc..) dont overeat/binge eat. watch out for sugary drinks! -excersize! like running. lifting weights is good too. (promotes growth of new brain cells.) skateboarding, sports, (try not to break a bone) -healthy relationships. I was emotionally abused and this elongated my recovery. that alone causes DP. (emotional support does wonders) -abstain from masturbation (important!) (testosterone helps build muscle[helps excersize], I also think I read that testosterone builds confidence. its what makes males do risky things I think like pick up girls. sex drive too.) -sex. I havent tried. but im sure it helps anxiety, depression, DP. I also read that PTSD'ers and DP'ers can have up to 25% less volume in the Hippocampus in the brain! From all the stress. Cortisol, stress hormone, when too much, erodes the brain. Excersize releases endorphines which i think helps that . Abstain from masturbation. More testosterone = less cortisol (i read that somewhere) so the less u jack off, the less stress! Confidence, self esteem: Confidence, healthy self esteem play a huge role in overcoming anxiety , depression, and DP. Because: Have to be confident to live your life and not look back. Visuals arent that big a big deal, people just tend to obsess about them. Be confidence enough to: live life without constantly checking symptoms. *I think that curing HPPD is about not being anxious about the visuals. to not obsess about them. to not fear them. Once u learn to ignore/forget about them as much as possible, they will start to go away. Constantly checking on them seems to reinforce them. Thats the concencus on Shroomery. Building confidence - practice being spontaneous meditation - mindfulness, positive self-talk. dont focus on the negative. !Very important! (this was maybe the biggest factor in my mental illness recovery, especially depression.)Google how to meditate. also increases posture which is VERY IMPORTANT. Yoga (Goes along with meditation) a stretched out body means less tension, less stress. less blood pressure. dancing, chanting. (Very helpful!!!) artwork/poetry quality time with family/friends who care about you body language. (subconscious). How is your posture? Are you smiling? Glaring your forehead?(I read that actually increases stress) Bravery too. So work on getting out of confort zone instead of being bed ridden, depressed, looking at walls. I also noticed that people dont wanna hang out with a depressed person sometimes. So sometimes u gotta work on yourself before people will wanna hang out with you. thats just how it works. u may bring others down if ur depressed. Supplements: Valerian root magnesium vitamin b-12(idk if this actually works) fish oil Valerian root *I also reccomend Essential Oils. Seems religeous, but like meditation, it helps a LOT, seriously. I also meditate with them. Smells. I reccomend Lavender. It decreases anxiety. and it smell good . google that if interested. helps me sleep too. its like a xanax hahahaha. but not as intense no side effects. natural. Get rid of the victim mentality. That will only do harm. Get control of your life. I had to do this, it was hard. Stop the self-pity. trust me. It helps in every aspect of life too . ~Many of these things are good for life in general. good for decreasing stress

I also reccomend anyone read "yearlee"'s post. In-depth and covers pretty much everything that I can think of! I think its the best post on this website. http://hppdonline.com/index.php?/topic/4591-today-marks-a-year-what-i-have-learned/ Thanks yearlee!

nice post! i agree with pretty much everything. meditation, I have the same results! im gonna link this on my post. I also reccomend yoga. increased brain blood flow. excersize. flexibility. physical health. I like "thinking of my brain as a hardware" and the perspective stuff. so true. that helped me alot. Like my dad is colorblind and I realized how lucky I am to see in color. Also, people have AIDS and cancer. so this pales in comparison. quality sleep is soo important. Havent tried fasting yet. Gotta give that one a go. seems hard . test willpower. Im also gonna go vegan and see how awesome that makes me feel anyways. probly the best post ive ever seen on this website(opinion). ! thanks dude. i pasted ur post on my post http://hppdonline.com/index.php?/topic/4592-mental-illness-no-more-hppd-yes/#entry28444

I cured like 90-97% of my mental illness. And I will recover fully Through meditation, yoga, journaling, running, and shit like that. Its about confronting the scary thoughts rather than pushing them away, essentially dissociating from them. I believe that is what causes DP. What helped alot was smoking weed. It made my visuals way worse though. OG kush from cali, a sativa. brought up the unconscious thoughts and made it easier to deal with them . I was tripping balls on weed lol. But meditating on weed at the beach for hours straight helped soooooo much. Ooh and journaling. And not blaming oneself, causing guilt. Anyways, after about 3 months of this approach, I feel myself again. for the most part im too lazy to write more, so comment/message if u have questions:). P.s. I still have HPPD buts it seems to be decreasing every day. Maybe Im just noticing it less cuz less anxietty about it? idk. same thing to be honest If u have DP, heres the cure in my opinion http://www.psychforu...topic80021.html and i recomend reading this https://en.wikipedia...Disintegration and this: http://depersonalizationrecovery.com/articles/depersonalization-cure-tip-3-trauma/

Does anyone have Debilitating Visuals? Im not talking about DP. I mean, visuals that impair ability to see/percieve? Im talking cant drive, etc..

found this on shroomery. quote, "Relax. HPPD is an after effect that persists in people that didn't manage to deal with all the surfacing material during the trip. The trip opened up a mental system of past experiences, asociations and resulting character traits. Stan Grof called this a Condensed Experience (CoEx). He claimed that a CoEx needed to be worked through completely before the psychedelics could have a healing effect. In some patients that took only a single session. In others it took many. He noticed that all negative after effects from a psychedelic session were related to CoEx's being activated but not fully working through them. These after effects included HPPD, anxiety, depersonalisation, psychosomatic physical pains and such. He would do another session with the patient as soon as possible, while the activated CoEx was still at the surface. I don't suggest you run off to do so. But, I do suggest you read Stan Grof's book LSD Psychotherapy in which he explains his views. Another member of this board recently posted an experience here that lined up with Grof's views. His thread title was something like: "Realy good trip cured me of my HPPD!". I didn't post in his thread so I can't find it for you. Good luck. You'll be fine." Interesting. IDK if its true but it definitly fits. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21847008

hey guys I wanna try that kind of green tea i think i tried it at some restaurant once, it was BOMB

IMPORTANT: Green tea, Caffeiene- free

Green tea caffiene free helps me manage my adhd. adhd isnt a bad thing. leonardo da vinci had it. its jjust hard for mindless college work and shit

Yeah. Going thru the process made me 100x a beter person. no pain no gain. After completeing DP process, I think that one becomes very enlightened. Also, reading this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Disintegration

I have fully accepted my visuals I think. I still get annoyed by them though Is it possible to have anxiety, DP/DR, and brain fog without anxiety? I mean, can HPPD get so severe that it directly causes DP?, anxiety?

It is calming and an ADHD treatment. I think it made my after images worse after using it all of the time. (its impossible to know, though) What do u guys think? It increases dopamine and GABA i guess... too lazy to research though IMPORTANT EDIT: GREEN TEA CAFFIENE FREE

-static -inanimate objects are alive -faces within objects like clouds/trees -afterimages -IDK what else lol, dont feel like thinking about it Havent smoked in a week. visuals went down. now everything i look at isnt a face anymore Well I accepted my vision for the most part. I do not have constant anxiety anymore I guess. IDK if I have DP anymore cuz i was dissociated like since 8th grade(dysfunctional family, bullying) but I feel emotions and stuff. The key was to force myself to stop having existential questioning, and accept visuals meditation yoga and just facing my fear (which was scary and hard and took a while) is what did it So yeah it feels nice to be able to sleep without freaking out after I see a visual lol. Now Im gonna wait a year to see if I get completely cured. Does anyone get 100% cured? ~8 months HPPD, finally accepted(i guess) had a dream that i was on acid last night lol. (i miss acid) I always have weird ass dreams like "Inception" the movie, dreams within dreams Question: is there anyone who has accepted their visuals and still gets anxiety from them?

well i used to not be able to take naps cuz anxiety.... but last night i had a dream i was on acid... and i do a lot lol..... dreams within dreams too

yeah i know 3 people who got it from NBOME . the other acid and speed

hppd i think... at least u arent seeing faces everywhere like i am

i think tell him not read these forums because unless hes an independent thinker he will get scared by what everyone says... HPPD isnt debilitating(mostly) but anxiety and depression and depersonalization are. yeah i met a junior at school and he didnt like it either, its helpful to have a friend with hppd who is willing to talk about it

me and many others think that worrying about the symptoms is a self fulfilling prophecy and increases them

This is probly the worst symptom that anyone can possibly get from HPPD. I look at ANYTHING and my brain will turn the static into a face the compliments what I'm looking at. It is annoying. I dont care much about the static, but seeing faces everywhere is annoying. I will just do my best to ignore it and not pay attention to it. I was on dabs yesterday and looked at a tree and I was sure that there was a face on it. Does anyone else see faces everywhere..? A doctor at a mental institute forced me to take antipsychotics cuz he was sure that I was developing schizophrenia -.- thinking he knows everything

dude once u get past the anxiety which will take a while, then HPPD is pretty much nothing. yes the anxiety is scary but once u face it and accept it, (baby steps), then theres no anxiety. so imagine hppd without anxiety. then u can learn to ignore it i guess. ive had hppd for 7-8 months and the past month was ...... straight meditation, like 2 hours a day. that lets the hippocampus heal. i reccommend reading Harris Harrington's website about depersonalization, in my opinion its spot on. message me if u want to. and what Visual said. getting over the anxiety is just a lot of work. my memory isnt what it used to be but i dont care because i know that my hippocampus has shrinked because of DP/depression/anxiety. when i faced anxiety 2 days ago, my brain burned and my heart rate increased. adrenaline. i was doing deep breathing at the time. scary. but kinda fun actually if ur an adrenaline junkie. its actually kinda cool having an altered perception, it reminds me that things arent always what they seem and that the eyes arent perfect. then again my hppd isnt too bad, it has healed up even though i still smoke weed i bet easing the anxiety had a lot to do with the decrease of visuals, a matter of obsessing and paying attention to it. but yeah face anxiety ur brain will probly burn cuz the amygdala in the brain i assume. but seriously i mean the worst thing that can happen is a panic attack, u cant die from anxiety unless its a heart attack which is obviously probly not gonna happen... we could die right now to a natural disaster u know this whole hppd battle has changed me soooooo much and im grateful to have it. "theres nothing to fear but fear itself" fear is an illusion. but its real. just dont trust fear. its the primitive aspect of our brain message if u wanna talk or something maybe over the phone? good luck:) ive recovered soo much. i actually felt "real" today!!!!! pretty awesome. all that meditation and self talk/introspection has payed off. but i still have probly another month of hard work to do, maybe even more. just remember to take it slow. yes, its scary

Since I smoked weed and drank green tea(i now quit these), i got new symptoms: -inanimate objects seem alive; faces etc..(im writing this post in school and people are looking at my screen...) like ill look at a chair and my brain thinks that its alive. or anything. its like what i imagine schizophrenia to be except i dont believe the hallucinations. These impair my functioning. I think it causes DP on its own even without anxiety. So im stuck in DP ... cant feel emotions. I cant accept this shit.... i hardly have anxiety though im just really depressed and cant stop crying how my parents went thru all this trouble to raise me and now idk if i can even relate to them: feel empathy. My life is ruined. I basically feel like im in an acid trip all the time without the good feelings... this article in interesting. http://all-that-is-interesting.com/hppd/2 It explains how our the visual part of our brain is hyperactive. so it tries too hard to make sense of stuff. Maybe it will clear up since i quit all drugs ..... gonna meditate all day. sleep, healthy eating, excersize: all check. I am only 19 and my brain is defiled. Does anyone else have these symptoms???