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hankmode

Sep 08, 2009

To: anyone

I suffered with derealization/depersonalization for the last ten years and have recently banished it with the help of EMDR.(eye movement desensitised reprocessing). Totally natural and works on the basis of REM (rapid eye movement), which occurs when we sleep. Derealization is usually brought on by trauma that our brain can't process. EMDR stores the trauma away where it should be, allowing us to stop reliving that bad experience, hence derealization. Look EMDR up. No medication involved and no side effects. I have weekly 1 hr private sessions. £65.00 per session. Not sure if on the NHS. Your GP should be able to recommend EMDR therapists in your area. This is the only thing that has worked. And it's good to feel 'normal' again. If you want to ask me anything, feel free. All the best."

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Anxiety/Is-there-anyone-here-with-Derealization-Depersonalization/show/971954

Nice to try.

Great post dude. I will start to research a lot tomorrow. Sounds interesting.

For me is the opposite. My sense of time is really slow, like when you're on weed. That feeling was very nice in my weed days. Now hurts like hell.

yes. look at the moon for example, is not double vision but is something close. In dpselfhelp there's a post about this with pictures.

This hole crap started after the ssri i take (previously i had a very intense experience with cannabis) but the antidepressant it was to hard for my brain. I think the serotonin maybe overstimulate some part of the brain.....panic attacks, dr and trails appeared later.

Im not a doctor, and SSRI it's not the same as SNRI but think if you really need that.

Was about to write the same as Visual. I also experienced some improvement after sex or any activity that produces a great pleasure. Any activity that involves a great reward releases dopamine. Obviously sex is the activity that is going to release more dopamine: D

Nothing new.... the CIA have been test the lsd in their own agents.

I like it dude. Im a musician too, and like that style. Its like Radiohead-Mum....great!

I will share some of my work in the future.

Since i have the first panic attack and DR, i left all the drugs. Cigarettes, pot, energy drinks, coffee. Alcohol i drink sometimes but only for enjoy the wine or beer, not for get drunk.

Six months ago i close my eyes and i see geometrical patterns and breathing wall two times. I DONT SEE them anymore. My visuals are bad, like all of you, but there's a little improvement.

Stop all drugs, you're playing with fire.

Exactly. Vipassana is similar to lsd when you lose your ego and start to watch yourself like a "3 person shooter " or a doctor.

Its sad, but in occident we try to find answers and happiness using drugs...the easy choice, the fastest. The meditation, like everything, it's hard to learn.

You can learn to play the bass guitar in one month. But one thing is play and other is to be good and understand the instrument.

Me too... its more dp/dr with hppd than hppd with dp dr

the worst thing that ever happened to me....24/7. Many times i think "this is life?, i did that? was me?" The memories come and goes from nowhere...the reality looks like a cannabis trip, more than a lsd. The sense of time, oh my god.

This last two weeks i feel 'fine', i hope this will end some day.

Amazing words flitch. I'm very grateful for sharing your experiences on this forum.

Despite not finishing the course, now I have to meet the goal of eliminating my traumas and practice mind control seriously, in order to really 'armed' for the second retreat. I am an experienced trekker, a few days on the mountain alone will not be bad: D

If we all had the courage to use drugs, take this as such, because it is a real trip, without additives. As Loky said, everyone should give it a try this technique.

Great post dude.And we're going for more with dopamine-

By the experiences they have hadusers of this forum and dpselfhelp.com I am convinced that dopamine is one ofthe keys to this misfortune.

That is my case, a little complex.My anxiety and DR /DP is so high that the visual part only appeared when I read about it and I started to pay attention.While some trails were not noticed as much as now that my brain is on the lookout for any visual anomality.

As you have posted,our brain is able to dissociate and suffer visual disturbances without the use of drugs.Interesting.

Something that reflected last year whenI saw the"breathing walls" and could manipulate the distortion to my liking with my mind.If it were as simple as an injury, thatwould not be possible to do. The mind hide's a secret-

something like that. A weed trip that never ends, but there's not the problem. Your accions, memories,feelings, dont feel yours.

lucky you are aztec, dp dr is HORRIBLE

The reconstruction of the ego is the most difficult to achieve. The LSD for moments that takes you by force. Experiencing that feeling 24/7 ...

I think this post is one of the most inspiring I've read

Many say it is counterproductive, but research on the subject generates a lot of pain but also makes you feel you are not alone and that there is hope. For any psychiatric disorder theres not a pill that will instantly cure and this isn't the exception. Everyone has to find its way to fight this and move on.

What exactly are your symptoms?

Good post oliver. My record without klonopin was 16 days in which the intensity of the visuals varied. sometimes better other worse. But you reach a point where anxiety and suicidal thoughts alarmed me enough and had to return to 0.5mg. Interestingly the role that anxiety as a modulator of the visuals. I am firmly convinced that removing 70% anxiety disorder will become more manageable.

LSD, anymore. Two times were sufficient. Marijuana, my other suspect in this situation, never again (I'm gonna miss you maria). When this disorder freaks me out completely maybe i will smoke opium

Jay, I read somewhere that you were 11 years without medication, then you have a mind and a powerful will. please read my comment about vipassana meditation, please give it a try please, or research about it.

This is the disorder song.

Get me out of here...

That's right. What I discovered when I realized I was getting closer to my 32 'LED. The less a esfuerze the better view.

I did an eye exam and my vision is perfect, however when I put a magnifying lens of 0.25 it was clarified substantially.

Never again I got seriously drunk, but I drink a few on weekends. Marijuana, sadly, never again.

It shouldn't be done, but if I have klonopin in my system and I have wanted to drink, I do.

My experience:

Last week I attended a Vipassana meditation retreat. I must say I do with this disorder is extremely difficult and painful. The first days are amazing. The total silence with which one must remain causes ARISING million thoughts in one's head. Despite the great pain, I discovered that many memories are still believed missing in me, still there. Visuals got bad and dreams really vivid.

The technique is mainly based on concentrating our minds on our feelings and then use a bridge to our real pain. If this produces anxiety disorder, it gives me pressure in the chest. From that start working. I cried every night while meditating in silence, thinking of all the guilt, treatments, medications. ERROR.

If you go thinking that this will cure the disorder, very bad. It is not that.

On the sixth day, my thoughts became so strong that I had to leave very sadly but with the firm conviction that solve all my traumas discovered and a strong spirit, make it to the end of the course.

Friends, this is something that should not be put aside, but if it cant 'cure', we will live the rest of ours life in peace, with a great tool to make real decisions and not prisoners of the anxiety or complex. I know because people talk right there that suffered from depersonalization and anxiety and suffer no more than this.

The course is designed for one to access the source of suffering and therefore you must be 10 days practicing and practicing mindfulness. Investigate and find people who have cured tinnitus, anxiety, drug addiction ....

As I prepare for the second course, I will continue investigating.