hppd24years

Only very little. I believe that paranoia is only enhanced by cannabis so if you're a very paranoid person you won't get very paranoid. I like to believe that most people only become so paranoid because it's illegal unlike most other things that can kill you a lot faster. I may be human but there are some days where I wonder and how my body reacts to most external stimuli must be different than most people. My dad has accused me of being too laid back. As anxious as pot can make me feel about a few things it doesn't overrule my warm fuzzy feeling or my ability to socialize better when high similar to when I drink a Red Bull mixed with vodka minus the slurring and stumbling. 

 

I must point that I have no desire for my HPPD symptoms to fade but if they do after I start my new life I can always go back to smoking cannabis if needed.

 

 

In Canada you can smoke marijuana legally if you get your personal possession card from Health Canada..                                                                                                                 I just find with weed if I try to smoke it, it re-triggers my dinosaur trip from M.M. and LSD (mixed concoction) It seems to send an anxiety electrifying feeling throughout my whole body..  I find it almost virtually impossible to take... But before my "Crazy Trip" I could smoke weed all day long with no end point to it..  I ventured into eating marijuana at a raw point and that was okay there was no paranoid feeling from it what so ever..  I felt high, I was laughing, my head felt tinglingly, but it was fine evidently..   I'm trying some other methodical ways of extractions of certain different types of elements from weed to see how that rolls with Hppd. There is great antioxidants that medical marijuana has to offer not just tetrahydrocannabidiols for psychoactive high.. Anyhoot don't pollute trying to reach for natural remedies in regards to healing or soothing Hppd at it's finest..  Take good care of yourself and others!!!  Hppd24yearsandstillwatchingGodzillatohelpmegetovermyphobia!!!(CartoonGodZillathatis)   Thanks man!!!                

SnuffoSoffi,

 

 

I've heard of people getting HPPD from the first trip; however from ALL of the stories I have also heard that it was a bad trip. And in my opinion it's abuse if you take the drug while; You are under the effects of another drug, you are under the after-effects of another drug, you are emotionally unstable or if you take the drug at a bad place and time.
Set, setting and drugs; get these 3 things right and I promise by everything I know that you won't get HPPD.

 

I'm one of those individuals who unfortunately received Hppd from a one time use of LSD and MAGIC MUSHROOMS at the same time.. The trip was unbearable didn't realize what it would be like in such a mind altered state of complete madness. Then I would have never imagined the residue effect that would last a life time from the "Fun time" I was suppose to achieve by doing psychedelics.. It's just unbelievable when I think about it to this vary day..                                                                        I feel there is a lot of different negative responses to the nervous system, pathology of humans, the functionality of the brain receptors, the five sensories, (sight, sound, touch taste and smell) and so forth that get affected on a individual basis that can differ from one human to the next.. I have friends that still do psychedelics to this day and have never developed any symptoms of Hppd what so ever.. So there is definitely two sides to this coin and if we can figure out why JOE can do psychedelics with no side affects and Visual, Jay, SnuffoSoffi, Hppd24years can't??? Then we would be rolling into some great answers instead of Hypothesizing.. 

Hi,

 

I should ideally not be posting here. As I don't suffer from HPPD as of now. It's something that I have come across before taking my first acid trip and it's scaring me. Most of you would tell me, to not take my trip. But I think I want to, based on all my readings and the countless documentaries I've watched, I think it does more good than bad. Before I conclude with my question, a little background about me.

 

I'm not a person who's heavily into drugs or psychedelics. I had a short stint with weed and I'm completely off it now. I have also tripped on mushrooms once, and felt they healed me in a way. I want to break my redundant thought patterns, and discover a newer perspective towards life. I'm in a creative profession so I think finding a newer dimension to life will help me, and heal me of the little problems in life like attention deficitness, low self esteem etc.

 

I just want a good acid trip, an experience I can cherish for life. I don't plan to do it repeatedly. But I don't want to end with HPPD. Any precautions I can follow?

GET HER DONE!! U ARE THE CAPTAIN OF UR OWN SHIP!! THE TITANIC SUNK AND ULTIMATELY HOPEFULLY U WONT B SIPPING AT THE SHALLOW END OF THE DREAM POOL LIKE THE TAINTED PEEPS ON THIS FORUM THAT WOULD chop off their pee-pee to get virtually any duration of relief. Anyhoot don't pollute!! Good luck with ur future endeavors and remember u only have one pee-pee "not like ur nuts" (that can b defined in 2 ways) hence so far.. Make the right choice.. Stay gold pony boy!!

Yes, I can relate but what we are experiencing are not hallucinations by definition. We may be confusing what we are seeing but the difference is that at least the object itself is real even if we get what it is wrong at first.I get a kick out of eating the candy Bottlecaps because even though it's supposed to have only 5 flavors I taste twice as many including marshmallows and the taste of the Fun Dip stick. Noises in general are hard to figure where they come from as it is when they're likely to bounce off walls anyhow but I do hear times when I think either someone is saying my name or someone says something and I thought it had sound like they had said something else. It may seem like I have a hard time hearing someone when it's usually because I have to process what they said a few times to make sure I got it right and I still wind up saying "what?" right before saying "oh, right". I routinely think I see a person standing in my peripheral vision only to find that it was only a store display or just a shadow. The good thing is I'm always able to still see and figure out what it was instead of believing I just saw a ghost again.

 

I'm not sure how any of this could be ruining your life unless you have a job where your sense of taste and smell are very important, you work in healthcare, or in any dangerous profession where it's important to know what people are saying each and every time. It's certainly discerning when you eat a sandwich and it doesn't taste the same or there is no taste at all but as long as you still have an appetite be happy. That's the main reason I self medicate with cannabis for otherwise I have no appetite AND a strange sense of smell/taste. When high I have a great appetite and an enhanced strange sense of smell/taste but I find it amusing considering that I don't change my diet much. Maybe I've always had a supersniffer and there are many things that share a trait within their odors that should remind you of food but the worst thing that happens is it makes you hungry.

Hey, When u self medicate with marijuana do u get paranoia?? Like does it bring u back to ur psychedelic trip?? ..

My experience with HPPD; around the age of 17, four years ago, I began experimenting with various drugs: LSD, mushrooms, MDMA, mephedrone, ketamine, methoxetamine, the 2c's, amphetamines.. more. I was particularly interested in the psychedelics. I only smoked weed a bit when I was younger and it didn't agree with me so was never really part of my life. I did have a few terrifying experiences on it though during this 'phase'. I probably had around 20-30 big acid trips, 10-20 shrooms and a good few of the rest. I did a hell of a lot, basically. I don't remember having one bad trip (except for a couple on weed, which was rare). At this time of my life I also was deeply depressed due to breaking up with my first love. It took me around 1-2 years to get over fully. One day - I noticed things were still moving. My friend told me about HPPD. It went around three weeks later. Did some more stuff. It came back. At the time I wasn't making good decisions.. anyway, one day, it stuck permanently. Came and went a bit. But then it became really bad and more permanent, more towards the age of 18 (three years ago), and I realised how much it was affecting my life. The last two years up until the last few months were horrible. I hardly went into uni, spent days sleeping; painful to be awake.. you know the story. Visually, I have visual snow, pulsing in the dark, floaters, CEV's (sometimes), I have experienced things pulse in size dramatically back at the worse times, also seen things turn into things like a school of fish swimming towards my face (after relapsing due to taking some mephederone). Used to have trails. I am not sure what else might be relevant.. if you have any questions, let me know 

Now I am almost symptom free, and that is how it stays except for after a night drinking. Visuals still there but getting good at not letting them affect my life. Worst symptoms were chronic lethargy, brain fog, cognitive dysfunction.

You?

 

 

What do you expect? I think there is more for you to focus on than doing cocaine. This is a recovery forum for people who have lasting issues from substance use/abuse. You flippantly talk about taking more hard drugs juxtaposed by a 'success story'. The point being, if you continue hard drug use you will most probably no longer be a success story. It is really positive that you are feeling better, congratulations, but it is completely tainted when you say you are willing to throw it all away. What are your priorities? Is it to get high or to get well? You choose.

Part of resolving issues with drugs is also having a healthy relationship with them (if you are going to have one). Drug seeking behaviour is not desirable. If you are willing to dice with permanent 'fucking hell', as you call it, to get high; if you are compelled enough to chase a very temporary fix for chronic pain, suffering; do you really think you have a healthy relationship with drugs?

I actually find it very contemptible that you suggest I was being non-constructive. Perhaps you do not want to hear someone tell you that you should not take cocaine. But maybe you need to hear it...

 

I'm not trying to take your fun away. I still go out and party, drink heavily sometimes (which I do regret). It does negatively affect my recovery, but cocaine... particularly not a good move as it has a similar action to the responsible inducing drugs.

 

If you don't learn from your mistakes and other people's, what's the point, really? You obviously want to learn the hard way..

Will you at least respond properly? I feel that you didn't address the points made suggest escapism. I will do everything I can to get through to you. I wish I had been wise. Do you want to risk reviewing this post later on in life, in pain, wishing you had followed the words someone tried to get through to you? Being wise sounds better to me..

Hey there Syntheso,  I have had one long ride with this transient episodic mind alteration to say the least.,. My hallucination are pretty devastating and constant not periodical.. I'm sure you have seen my list on here in that regard.. The hallucinations are so severe I literally throw up sometimes..      For some reason I can get very nauseous from tracers, elongated beams, static vision, afterimages and 3-d thick streamers.. (One day I might be able to make balloon animals out of them) Yuppie can't wait for that!!!                                                     I"m hopeful that there will be a true diagnostic criteria designated for Hppd not a fostered conventional pharmaceutical antidote from Multiple sclerosis, Autism, Alzheimer's, seizures, dementia, etc..                           I do like the 23andme with the different variations and functions of cells pertaining to our gens.. The human Genome is quiet its own world made up of millions of S.N.P.s that make us the individuals we are.. Hopefully we can narrow down a few things with the results of our tests coming back soon..       Take good care of yourself Syntheso and others!!       

Oh crap the first sentence in my comment above is suppose to say.. Wow ur winning!! Meditation eh?? Not médiatique lol.. Wrong language..

Wow Ur winning!! Médiatique eh?? I kind of thought to myself that maybe u might be able to use another part of ur brain instead of the part that is damaged from drug abuse. Kind of like a to badly broken road to get u to where ur going so u take another road or detour to get u where ur going.. It does make sense.. So basically u are using another part of ur brain for ur sensory of sight and hearing instead of the damaged concurrent ones?? I always thought that was possible I even tried myself to get there.. If u have any insights in that regard feel free to express urself.. Thanks..

Yes, there are haha. But you must be eighteen years or older to get in. And its not actually legal, just tolerated.

Our Conservative Government and Health Canada just raised the minimum sentence for five plants and up to 6 months in jail upon conviction.. They are almost finished building a super jail to fill it up with pot smokers and growers apparently. It's absolutely horrible to put pot active peeps in jail for weed.. They promote tobacco, alcohol, pharmaceuticals, methadone and synthetic hill Billy heroin.. Harper and his constituents have a bad case of dyslexia. I better watch what I'm saying the Super Soldiers might get me.. Bye bye!!

I've been in the same boat as you for over 20 years and I can tell you that it does get better. If you're still young like I was now would be time to build your character. Sounds stupid and maybe a little too obvious but if social situations are tough the answer may be to learn jokes or whatever stuff is worth saying around the people you socialize with. I used to be the exact same way and hesitate way too long and by the time I came to say what I wanted it was too late. Thinking fast is hard if you have to focus on exactly what you are trying to say but if you practice someway somehow and learn to relax then it'll get easier. 

 

I used to be anxious about being in public but my solution was to build confidence in myself that if something were to happen I should be able to respond correctly. I got myself a black belt in Tae kwon do while I was stationed in Korea in 2000 and the speed in which I achieved my belt versus anyone else proved to me that my hand-eye coordination, muscle memory, and (insert term here for visual mimicry if found) is enough for me to pull off some really cool stuff that so far has never been needed. There must be some sort of hobby that you can use to not only kill time and distract yourself from the symptoms but also help you figure out your place in this world. 

 

Good luck and please try to remember not to think about it too hard! All I have to do is think about tinnitus and then BAM!

 

Have you ever realized you were dreaming in your dream?? I have done this a few times and actually looked at objects while quickly looking away and noticed absolutely NOOOO 3d tracers, streamers, afterimages and weird design of colors what so ever.. I kept looking at everything and looking away just pure normal vision like I had before doing psychedelics.. I had no Hyperacusis either..  Then I wake up in misery reaching for my sunglasses for some what of a relief..  So to make a long story short I'm 110% free of hpps in my dream state..  I don't think anyone on here can give a rational reason to why this happens..  But it is interesting to say the least...   Hpps25yearsnow..

I share 98.5% of my D.N.A. with Ralph the chimp at the Zoo???   Now I know what is clearly wrong with me!!!   hahaha..                                         There is 10 million Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms in the Human Genome which sculpture different variations of characteristics, functions and individuality in our D.N.A. code. S.N.P.'s is also responsible for the different reactions we have to DRUGS and DISEASES which being analyzed and Identified we could be making a big move in regards to getting some where with this disorder.  Patients is a major virtue here as well as a possible understanding in regards to fighting this disease/disorder once and for all as a nucleus.    Hppd25yearsnow..     

I'm also got hppd from smoking weed.

 

Byron, when you smoked weed, did you fill strong pulse, vertigo, tinnitus and strong visual snow? If yes, so the body just responded to drugs as to poison and got blood vessel damage. If you saw discoloration after smoking weed, so the weed was mixed with hallucinogenic drugs.

Dam I never knew weed could give u hppd alone. Maybe u guys are allergic to it or something.. That's crazy mangs!!. Don't ever do psychedelics' they are alot stronger than weed.. Where are u guys from Anyhoot?? Maybe the weed is alot stronger than Canadian weed?

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What post?? MIne??

@lildavey

Thank you very much. I was thinking of taking some clonazepam for a short period (2 mo.), trying to get myself in an upward spiral. Sometimes I feel okay, and then I realize how fucked up everything is.

 

@hppd24years,

 

I have tinnitus too

It was really hell at first, it really was, but I'm kinda used to it now and it doesn't bother me anymore. Are you American?

 

My my weed was not laced, I'm 100% positive on that (I smoked from the same bag before and friend of me later). When I was still in denial (that was around 7 months ago) I still smoked weed every coupla a months and I got exactly the same extreme experience one time after taking 2 hits (or bowls as they call it in America?): feeling like nothing had any meaning and time didn't exist anymore. Felt like I was trapped in a crazy limbo for ever and that I was insane, could think at all. But anyway, I'm not bothering with drugs anymore. You wouldn't get me to smoke for a million dollars and I'm serious about that. Also I can't drink any beer or so, because I get the same sensation, albeit a bit milder, of completely tripping out.

 

As for any mental illness, no it doesn't run through the family, although I have autism (very high functioning, you wouldn't notice it even if you knew me all my life). I got all the stuff: tinnitus, dp/dr, visual snow, sensitivity towards light. All started immediately following that experience 2,5 years ago. I'm not aware this could be anything than HPPD and cannabis IS a hallucinogen.

 

Can I ask you how old you are?

 

I'm probably going to participate in the Diversity Immigration Lottery this year, so there is a good chance I'm visiting America pretty soon. Perhaps we meet one day haha!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

 

Ummmm.. No I'm not American but North American, I guess, which would make me  "Canadian"!!!                          Yeah when I was younger the tinnitus didn't bother me as much but when it turned into Hyperacusis that's when it drives you crazy..                     Cannabis doesn't have hallucinogenic properties it's more of a Psychoactive accompanied by C.B.D's..  But some people do react to it differently than others apparently.. I do know that after receiving hddp then smoking weed it can definitely resurrect the bad trip for sure..                            I would love to meet you one day it would be kool as hell!!                                                I'm old enough to be your grampa!!  LOL!!!     I'm like in my forties to be honest..   Hppdshoudn'tbeatworktodaytobeautifuloutside!!!

Mike Zero, u better watch out u might trip out and have a big T-Rex chasing u down henceforth the THRAWTH heated breath running down the back of ur spine.. Whaaahoooo!!! It's coming for u!!

Mike Zero, u better watch out u might trip out and have a big T-Rex chasing u down henceforth the THRAWTH heated breath running down the back of ur spine.. Whaaahoooo!!! It's coming for u!!

Mike Zero, u better watch out u might trip out and have a big T-Rex chasing u down henceforth the THRAWTH heated breath running down the back of ur spine.. Whaaahoooo!!!

Well my name speaks for itself which man did I ever go through the trials and tribulations of "Now I'm into the 25th year of HfucknP.P.D. in 3d): (Lucky me). I won't elaborate on the specifics because anyone who truly has this plague realizes its exasperating interlocutor pacifics: << (Poetic devices) - hehehe!!

Brandon, Brandon, Brandon, How the hell did u get H.p.p.d. from smoking weed?? Mang!! Are u certain that it was not laced or sprayed with psychedelic drugs?? If not I have never heard of anyone getting this disorder from Tetrahydrocannabidols psychoactively speaking here of course.. This is a rare case my friend. I'm not trying to point any fingers here but does any kind of mental illnesses run in ur family?? If so u might want to look it up or research it just to make sure, u would know best of the symptoms ur feeling..

This disorder/disease is dam near relentless under the category of understanding it exactly.. It seems to find a placement with conventional pharmaceutical drugs associated with anti-psychotic, seizure, P.T.S.D. and other mental health problems. So far antidotes fall alongside the mentioned above disorders coincidentally.. Diet, exercising, sleep seems to assist in managing it.. Even nootropics seems to be a popular method.. However what ever floats ur boat my friend.

My advice to u personally speaking, sleep with as many girls as u can, lol.. Kidding mang, if u can try to stay busy hit ur self actualization write ur goals with plans and dates followed by ur solution to hppd symptoms systematically..<<[meaning when u have a terrible unsympathetic symptom how are u going to defeat it have at least to realistic ways problem solving it] This my friend will build ur self-worth, self-esteem, self-dignity and self-respect. These trait-persona's now are the survival skills u need to put in ur tool belt to function properly in this wacky wild Kool-Aid style world we live in.. It's definitely no walk in the park but it will give u the confidence that u need to prevail. Trust..

I have never met anyone personally with hppd that I'm aware of.. It seems so far or surrealist to me almost like a dream of discombobulated communication. However it would be kool to meet someone of my kind personally.. One day before I die (I'm starting to get really old now) it shall happen law of attraction really works!!^o^♡.♡Θ_Θ(~.^)(*_*)

Anyhoot kid, I think I have one of the worse cases of hppd including tinnitus (constant ringing of the ears) and every imaginable symptom of no sympathy from hppd that it can give.. It's like when hppd takes its right foot out of my ass it immediately, immeasurable puts its left foot right back in it.. Damever, I won't lie to yeah this is one treacherous voyage and not the easiest thing to deal with I'm sure u can relate considering the time duration u have had it for.. Reach ur goals stay positive and learn to laugh because that is ur healing grace and don't allow anyone to take that away from u.. Trust..

I'm living proof of this kind. Successful, happy, in love, have a grade 8 edumacation, I really shouldn't say that, 2 degrees << doesn't really mean anything but more bills to pay, 2 dogs, waterfront home, a good sense of humor, outdoor enthusiast, and still coping copiously as I type this to u..

My conclusion is simple: if u don't brake the incantation from this psychological disorder do not under any circumstances sink in the swamp of sadness. If so u will live out ur days in a heap of hell delivered to u in a hand basket.. (Have to come up with some more fresh modernized analogies and metaphors' lol). Keep focused and straight to obtain ur goals that will be ur antidote to this riddle of quest for answers.. Remember that ur not the only one with this type of extraterrestrial feeling.. I would not wish this defecation on anyone.. God save the Queen!!

ok mang I'm desperately falling asleep this novel has gone on to longhorn-ish.. I wish u well Brandoo stay away from all drugs keep optimistic and I think u have a real good chance beating this seriously.,

HPPD24LONGCRAZYDUCKINGYEARSCOULDUIMAGINELONGERTHANUHAVEBEENALIVE. take good care of yourself and others!!! Good nite..

U have to mention Justin Bieber than u might get a response..

Seems to me it's a little short of hppd like some after residue effect.. I would stay away from any psychedelics if I was u.. Listen to ur brain it's telling u something..

It's nice to get a diagnoses but it would be nicer to get an exact clear explanation in regards to what specific area of ur brain is being affected or malfunctioning and why.. It would be the nicest feeling for a specialists to sit down with you and clearly explain what has happened knowing the proper protocols that work with exact antidotes for solutions.. Furthermore maybe they could explain what components are lacking certain chemicals and elements with a plan to fix them.. Instead of just guessing all the time with mask conventionals for anti-psychotics or anti-seizure type ball park solutions.. I feel personally we need to figure out the specific areas that have been torn or damaged understand the correlations between the anatomical structure, pathology, nervous system, etc and their supporters exactly why they are not operating correctly. Time is of essence but so is death.. I hope the hyperspace button gets pressed here soon because I'm becoming an old fart..;O)

Thank you I truly appreciate it. That's good advice and it's exactly what I plan to do. Hopefully we both see improvement in the future. All we can do is keep on fighting.

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That is truly what we can only do and prey for.. Good luck my friend we are in the same dam boat now grab an orr, lets master the treacherous waters up ahead whilst exalting in triumph on the other side of this nut house we reside in. Take good care of urself and others!!

Yes, the worst for me is street lights. Idk if it is because they are colored or what. Street lamps too. Cars do it too idk if street lights and lamps use different bulbs or what it is. If my migraines get bad they really start popping out.

. Hey are migraine headaches a part of hppd and tracers or star bursting?? If so that is finally one thing that I don't get in comparison to all the other symptoms peeps get on this site.. This is the first I have ever seen of migraines or I should say read of.

If you are nearly fully recovered, take that as your final warning: you are incredibly lucky. Honestly man, don't touch coke. There are so many of us who have had huge relapses due to coke/other stimulants. Perhaps those choices have caused lifelong illness when it could have been temporary. Since things seem to currently have been temporary for you, why risk permanency? So many people would wish to be in your position and give things a second shot. You are incredibly naive if you think, "Coke is irrelevant to my HPPD, I've been okay with stimulants recently". You sound like the kid that thinks they are invincible. You might subjectively feel that certain stimulants are not harming you, but you cannot be sure that they are not. For some people HPPD symptoms take a while to become apparent after ingesting a substance.

 

We can actually be objective about this; look at the pharmacology of cocaine. Albeit, quite different, it works on the same systems as LSD, MDMA. Seems quite relevant to me. If you are predisposed to HPPD (which you know you are), it will worsen it. That gate to your visual cortex has been opened. Serotonin (and a whole host of other things) will affect it. Not just affect it, we know that serotonin worsens it. You have the facts, now, what are you going to do with them? You feeling that it is okay to take certain stimulants has not objective basis. It actually suggests to me that you have an addictive personality (which I can relate to - so not trying to shame you).

 

I made the mistake you seem to be willing to make. I considered MDMA and other stimulants fine to use because they aren't 'hallucinogens' (though they can produce hallucinations) and I didn't notice any obvious worsening from their use. I carried on taking them after my HPPD set in; before it got really bad. It was this that made things permanent for me.

 

 

Have a serious think before you throw your fortune away.. you are making a life decision.

 

(sorry to be harsh, but this is why we are here on this forum... everything is said with love and your best intentions considered. I wouldn't want anyone to live with this permanently if it can be stopped)

Hey Syntheso, I have seen u on here a few times I was a little inquisitive in regards to how long u have had this disorder for?? And what are ur symptoms?? If u don't mind me asking??

Same here, shrooms laced with lcd. It's been 16 yrs. but I've had lot's of great times though so living life is still worth it.

Sometimes when I get down and feel sorry for myself I almost pray for death....Thankfully once I get out of that mindset I try to be a functioning member of society and the good times out way the bad as long as I stay busy!

Do u experience all the Raw symptoms without sympathy too??

How long have u had hppd for?? Is the year for ur name self explanatory??

I have never seen u on here before.. Take care mang€£¥..

 

Visual u son of a bitch!! Lol heheheheh love the sense of humor mang!!