mbellamy09 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Posted September 6, 2011 what NAC do you guys recommend? i tried some cheap ones i guess and i think 600mg was to much. still want to give it a try though.after thinking about it could all of this be caused by my klono. i went off of it for like 6 days and it was awful. then went back up and 2 months later still it im not back to normal. anxiety is fucking skyrocketing by the day. as well as DP/DR. disturbing thoughts. im just over this i was fine until the doc cut my dosage in fine and now i feel like im back to square one, but worse.the klono could be causing my fogginess or the DP and anxiety. problem is i dont know and it woul take prob. at least a year to get off the klono to find out. The NAC sounds promising for the fogginess and stuff and did someone mention gintok on here or something? im just to confused right now and pissed that no doctor has any idea whats going on.
pennyarcade Posted September 6, 2011 Report Posted September 6, 2011 NAC is NAC just buy it from a reputable place so you know you are getting the real deal. Its is common place for people to feel bad when they start taking NAC some people say it detoxes metals etc from your system so its going to put strain on your liver/kidneys try drinking more water while you adjust to it. I get flu like symptoms myself when ever i start taking it.
Guest Posted September 6, 2011 Report Posted September 6, 2011 When you say "feel bad" you mean internally as well as mentally?
brendan Posted September 6, 2011 Report Posted September 6, 2011 what country are you in? In UK i get mine online from BulkPowders. Cheap and good quality (not eggy). Also comes as powder so easier to control dose. Sure wherever you are there will be a good online powder seller.
brendan Posted September 6, 2011 Report Posted September 6, 2011 the other thing you asked about was ginkgo biloba. Again you can spend shit loads on pills of this or buy a carrier bag full of the raw material for very little. It is not the tastiest of teas but not disgusting.
mbellamy09 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Posted September 6, 2011 no im Indiana unfortunately and how does ginkgo work compared to NAC? sorta the same thing i guess? appreciate the responses and sorry if the post came off as self pity of some sorts.
brendan Posted September 9, 2011 Report Posted September 9, 2011 gingko is different - a herb rather than an amino acid. I didnt see any noticeable benefit from it but it doesnt surprise me that some people here find it helpful. Have a look on the internet at sports powder shop sites for nac, i;m sure you'll find lots. Or ebay. That's where i got my bag of gingko from.
mbellamy09 Posted September 16, 2011 Author Report Posted September 16, 2011 does nac interact negatively with klonopin by any chance?
sandrad1975 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Posted September 16, 2011 Did you ever find out if the NAC and Kolonipin work ok together....I have started my son on NAC and he has been taking Kolonipin for two months. Please let me know how its working for you. Thanks
mbellamy09 Posted September 17, 2011 Author Report Posted September 17, 2011 im gonna be honest i dont know to much about nac but when i take it with the klonopin which i HAVE to take at the moment, i get really hot, stomach cramps, face turns red, and i really have not seen that many benefits. granted ive only been taking it for a week or so as well. i also have been on the Klonopin for about 2 years took a mjor 50% cut at once and 2 months later still not stabilized. DP/DR is off the charts. thinking about Keppra tbh combined with klono. back on subject though to sum up my experience has not been what to expect. its been worse but unless your son is complaining about anything i dont see the harm. im waiting for a response on if this is normal. i only take 300mg twice a day i think i might stop. hope it works out for him keep me updated, how old is he if you dont mind me asking? you can pm me if you want.
sandrad1975 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 im gonna be honest i dont know to much about nac but when i take it with the klonopin which i HAVE to take at the moment, i get really hot, stomach cramps, face turns red, and i really have not seen that many benefits. granted ive only been taking it for a week or so as well. i also have been on the Klonopin for about 2 years took a mjor 50% cut at once and 2 months later still not stabilized. DP/DR is off the charts. thinking about Keppra tbh combined with klono. back on subject though to sum up my experience has not been what to expect. its been worse but unless your son is complaining about anything i dont see the harm. im waiting for a response on if this is normal. i only take 300mg twice a day i think i might stop. hope it works out for him keep me updated, how old is he if you dont mind me asking? you can pm me if you want.
sandrad1975 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Posted September 17, 2011 He is 18 and has had this since 16.
zukov Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 I tried 600mg of NAC today. Only i feelt a little sickness for a while, maybe for take it alone, i will try tomorrow a low dose with food. The NAC take time to effect my body?
John Smith Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 I started NAC and tyrosine yesterday as well, i havent really noticed any difference except that my ears dont feel as clogged after i take them, but thats most likely from the tyrosine. Anyone else take that btw?
John Smith Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 Okay so it might be a bit premature to tell, but i do feel like the NAC and Tyrosine are helping because after two months of nothing (my symptoms actually got a bit worse) i have been noticing an improvement in my cognitions and DPDR, and to a slight degree, afterimages. It's slight, but it's there...i also started doing cardio on the same day as i started taking these supplements so that might have something to do with it.
zukov Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 I havent see any changes with NAC at the moment. I will try Tyrosine and see what happens.
brendan Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 try increasing your dose - gradually in case of nausea. Maybe 5 pills with food. Effect should be fairly quick- maybe a few hours or less. I havent found any effect with tyrosine. Nac makes mucous thinner, which may account for the ear unclogging. Only works on brain fog and anxiety for me, not visuals, and i dont have dpdr anyway.
zukov Posted October 28, 2011 Report Posted October 28, 2011 thanks for the advice, i will increase slowly the dose. Also, i have cronic sinusitis and the NAC is really helping with that.
John Smith Posted October 29, 2011 Report Posted October 29, 2011 I actually got no negative side effects from NAC that I can discern apart from a slight headache and eye pain the first maybe 2 days i took it...id also recommend taking it without food so it's easier for the chemicals to cross the blood brain barrier and not get digested along with all the food...im taking two pills at night, occasionally one during the day, but it's completely arbitrary, i dont wanna over do it
John Smith Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 actually, 10 days into NAC today and im shitting myself hahaha guess i overdid it...in related news im breathing very well though
1998 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 I use to manage lots of vitamin stores . Everyday I would walk around and try taking vitamins and herbs to see if I could find anything that helped. Nothing did anything to drastic. Best I found to relax, trytophan, valerian root, surprisingly none of the tea helped. For sleep only melatonin can touch me at 6 to 9mg. that was (is) a big help though. For energy quite a few, but the best ones without bothering my hppd were a good B complex and the Green powder mixes (love those) the good one's were atleast $40.00 US though. I'm glad all that was free or I would of spend a good 10k. Probably expains why I quit lol, had to check it all out though. Nac did nothing so I'm on your topic just trying to save some of you some $ Of course one of you might react differently then me. My brained been wired hppd style for so long, nothing really changes even if i get high.
VisualDude Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 Boogres, would you please describe your eye pain? Also, have you had this same type of pain in the past? As far as NAC, it is in your body to clean up intermediate metabolites. If taking it helps you feel better - great. If taking it make you feel worse, just lower the dose for a while. It should be something that helps your brain be healthy or even repair some (antioxidant). Expect it to be something healthy to do for months or years. Since it is used to counter Tylenol poisening, it is pretty cool stuff. But like anything, you can take too much. It is being tested for psychiatric conditions as well.
John Smith Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 It's just weird eye pain that i feel almost coming from the optic nerve outward, coupled with what i believe to be intraocular pressure...it went away though, as it did when i first developed HPPD...I get a weird stinging pin-in-my-eye sensation seldom as well... i've been oversleeping alot and feeling sorta fatigued, so im not sure if it's just that or if the NAC is contributing to it a bit...ive in some places that fatigue can be a side effect, but ive also read that it's believed to help with CFS so i'm really at a loss as far as the fatigue goes
1998 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 I get something similiar, only when I oversleep for some reason. It feels like my eyeball is bruised accompanied (klonopins making me forget how to spell) with pressure. and a dull stabbing pain. I might have something completely different. If possible go to a optomologist, the eyes are something I wouldn't take chances with. I"m greatful to "see" visuals...
brendan Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 take it with magnesium and vit c. I get a big boost from magnesium (and vitamin d) tho dont know why as i think i have a fairly high magnesium diet. Maybe its just personal body chemistry that i need a lot or something. General wisdom on web is to take nac with vit c tho i dont find it does anything. I just take a 1ml scoop of vit c with whatever dose of nac i take.
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