In your experience, what was the attitude of other psychedelic users towards HPPD?

[SteadfasttotheEnd]

The psychedelic-using community itself as a whole does not seem to take HPPD seriously, whether it's people doing shrooms for fun, Caribbean psilocybin retreats, your average LSD/shroom dealer/user/friend/trip sitter, etc. They all seem to downplay the risk or not even recognize the issue's reality. This seems to be especially true on Reddit.

Before you got HPPD, what was the attitude of other people around you (about HPPD?)

[RandyW.03]

I’ll be honest before hppd I didn’t have a clue about it and if I did I wouldn’t have taken any drugs, that being said I was one of those idiots who would say there’s no risk, you just get high and come down.  Now I realize the enlightenment I was chasing so bad hit me like a truck and I’m still tryna scrape myself off the road.

[AF44]

On 1/19/2023 at 5:25 PM, RandyW.03 said:

I’ll be honest before hppd I didn’t have a clue about it and if I did I wouldn’t have taken any drugs, that being said I was one of those idiots who would say there’s no risk, you just get high and come down.  Now I realize the enlightenment I was chasing so bad hit me like a truck and I’m still tryna scrape myself off the road.

Well put!

[brake]

I never heard of HPPD or visual snow prior to doing LSD. Have I known that there was a 5% chance of getting it I would have never tried LSD or any psychedelic ever. This is such a terrible stubborn disorder. The only psychedelic I ever tried was LSD. I was actually very pro LSD before I got the disorder right after my 7th trip. I was convincing others that they should try it and I loved that Steve Jobs was supporting it and I really liked the hippies. I was also listening to Terrence McKenna and his idea of psychedelics spurring the evolution of early hominids. I also thought it was like a spiritual thing. Very ironic that I strongly warn everyone against psychedelics now and tell everyone that I have it hopefully scaring them away from ever doing it again. Totally not worth it. What's strange is that many of my friends still did psychedelics after I told them about my situation and it's like they forget or don't care. One girl was like yeah psychedelics are actually beneficial in treating disorders, like what? I just told you my entire story, did you already forget? And no I never had any mental disorders before, was never diagnosed with anything and never had to take any medications besides like antibiotics and antihistamines before this. I can't say like "yeah I was always off and weird lol. Not surprised this happened to me. I always had something."

Edited August 18 by brake

[raincat]

On 8/18/2024 at 1:43 AM, brake said:

I never heard of HPPD or visual snow prior to doing LSD. Have I known that there was a 5% chance of getting it I would have never tried LSD or any psychedelic ever. This is such a terrible stubborn disorder. The only psychedelic I ever tried was LSD. I was actually very pro LSD before I got the disorder right after my 7th trip. I was convincing others that they should try it and I loved that Steve Jobs was supporting it and I really liked the hippies. I was also listening to Terrence McKenna and his idea of psychedelics spurring the evolution of early hominids. I also thought it was like a spiritual thing. Very ironic that I strongly warn everyone against psychedelics now and tell everyone that I have it hopefully scaring them away from ever doing it again. Totally not worth it. What's strange is that many of my friends still did psychedelics after I told them about my situation and it's like they forget or don't care. One girl was like yeah psychedelics are actually beneficial in treating disorders, like what? I just told you my entire story, did you already forget? And no I never had any mental disorders before, was never diagnosed with anything and never had to take any medications besides like antibiotics and antihistamines before this. I can't say like "yeah I was always off and weird lol. Not surprised this happened to me. I always had something."

I think the chance is not 5% for every person, the people who get it tend to have some kind of predesposition, right? I definetly did. I'm guessing that the chance would be higher than 5% if you're presiposed, since from what I gather that number comes from people who do psychedelics as a whole, predisposed and not. I think there should definetly be better warnings for people who have personal or family history of mental illness, seizures, and/or bad reaction to drugs, especially since psychedelics etc are being pursued for treatment of mental illness.

[brake]

1 hour ago, raincat said:

I think the chance is not 5% for every person, the people who get it tend to have some kind of predesposition, right? I definetly did. I'm guessing that the chance would be higher than 5% if you're presiposed, since from what I gather that number comes from people who do psychedelics as a whole, predisposed and not. I think there should definetly be better warnings for people who have personal or family history of mental illness, seizures, and/or bad reaction to drugs, especially since psychedelics etc are being pursued for treatment of mental illness.

I think it's for everybody because a lot of people get brief moments of visuals even while sober. I don't think everyone is predisposed.

[raincat]

42 minutes ago, brake said:

I think it's for everybody because a lot of people get brief moments of visuals even while sober. I don't think everyone is predisposed.

I'm not saying everyone is predisposed, I'm just saying that from what I've read having some prior issues seems to make you more likely to get HPPD. Brief moments of visuals while sober is not the same as constant HPPD. I don't believe it's a coincidence that I had severe issues before going on to get HPPD, specifically type 2. Drugs are known to have potentially worse effects on the mentally ill and people with seizure history.

Edited August 19 by raincat