Interesting! I would bet the sage effect comes from the effect on Acetylcholine.

All fine with teas and herbs, but if it's possible to get it extracted in pills, it's an easier way to up the dose substantially. 

Regarding your theory of bacteria, I'm in!!! Not convinced though, but it clearly makes way more sense that the current nonsense (not)understanding of HPPD. At least I agree with the part of thinking outside of the box.

Just today I saw someone on REDDIT saying his case was actually Lyme disease: https://www.reddit.com/r/HPPD/comments/d8j1xw/hppd_or_just_vs_syndrome/

Definitely worth a serious reading!

I started drafting it here in another topic, but it needs more polishing, but basically, I don't buy HPPD... it's bulls*t. It's just something else, totally misdiagnosed and un or mis treated. I'd bet that knowing what it ACTUALLY is, and treated from the beginning, it would be gone in no time. But the current diagnosis makes no damn sense, and just attacks the symptoms. 

I'm not saying anything crazy. Maaany of the diseases that we know today, were totally misdiagnosed and mistreated in the recent past. And in terms of brain related medicine, we're still in extremely early stages, and psychiatry, pfff, even worse, more like a pseudo-psience for the most part.

I know that this forum fights for the recognition of HPPD, and research accordingly, but maybe the first question to answer would be: does it really exists?
If it could be grouped with other condition (or conditions) as same or similar cause, it would not only remove the stigma associated with the drug use, but also increase the interest in research due to more people affected. And when I say "cause", I really mean CAUSE... I don't see convincing proof right now that past drug use is the CAUSE of HPPD. I see, maybe, some correlation. I see a christian anti-drugs doctor that came up on his own with the term and "diagnosis", and not much more.

An example: if I cut my arm with a knife, leave it untreated, gets infected, and I die... that corpse isn't counted as "stabbing", it's "infection".

Just some crazy ideas

Sorry about your condition, but please keep updating, I think reports with your level of detail are really important!

Can I try to guess the name of the two herbs?

I have 4 candidates, in this order: gingko biloba, lion's mane,  Phosphatidyl Serine, and Astragalus. 

I don't have hppd, but I'd still be extremely interested in knowing anything about this! I've been investigating it, and I clearly think there is A LOT to be said about hppd, even just from a lot of reading

David, I've been investigating this topic and I'd love to have a chat with you, please contact me!

Hi, I'm reviving this really old topic, just wondering if anyone else has tried this.

I love to read this. It further confirms my hypothesis!

15 hours ago, Kax1 said:

Hey, no not ever, I mean just since the baby. I have tried acid once and mdna multiple times growing up. Never had any issues after though. I am currently on codeine for a hand operation and weirdly have not overly noticed any of these symptoms, I'm probably too high or it helps aha. But obviously this is just for the week as it heals and my anxiety is low due to it. I know anxiety absolutely heightens everything. 

Thaaaaanks for your reply, and I'm glad you are getting better!

Your description keeps confirming my hypothesis behind all this "hppd" thing

May I ask a couple of more questions?

- how strong/long the cocaine binge was?

- how long ago was your labor? (what a silly way to ask your kid's age hehe, I didn't want to make it too personal, but I'm clearly asking the same hehe. )

The opiates that you're taking will definitely help, but the withdrawal could make it way worse... I'd talk to your doctor about it. Probably you'd need a specially long withdrawal period to avoid making the symptoms even worse after the treatment

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24563427

A Perceptual Inference Mechanism for Hallucinations Linked to Striatal Dopamine

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982218300046

A Perceptual Inference Mechanism for Hallucinations Linked to Striatal Dopamine

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982218300046

Zyprexa  antagonizes Dopamine D2 receptors... I'm glad it doesn't work, it confirms my theory

I see you're extremely well researched, and I've been doing a lot of that too.

For me, it all points to dopamine D2 receptors.

I'd love some help looking into the effects of dexamethasone
Someone here said it worked for him, and the method of action clearly adds up for me

Same with amisulpride

amisulpride seems to be good for symptoms, but dexamethasone  could even be a long term solution

On 12/16/2018 at 3:41 PM, VisualDude said:

What toxin were you 'exposed' to if you don't mind my asking? Under what circumstance?

It was something like rubber-cement glue that affixes commercial carpet to concrete.

I don't believe Caucasians are racists, except when there's personal hate involved.

Was referring to Mormons.  They used to believe the dark skin was a curse from God because of Cain.  Perhaps their belief system has changed since my mother was one.

I would love more info about your hypothesis.

I do think that Dopamine D2 is THE thing for HPPD.

On 6/2/2019 at 1:31 AM, sami said:

Got no experience of DMT but melatonin seems to make my HPPD worse.

I get kaleidoscope like CEVs when rubbing my eyes. Starts with my Visual Snow going crazy, and then kaleidoscope/vortex like triangles.

My 2 cents.

Melatonin makes it worse??? 

Is this a general opinion?

Sleeps problems is what I'm having at the moment, and only that, and it has me worried. I wouldn't call it "only sleep problems", because sleep is extremely important for our wellbeing!!!

I recommend reading the book Why we sleep, or listening to talks of the author.

The general consensus here is that caffeine makes HPPD worse immediately and acutely, indeed.

Basically avoid anything that fucks with dopamine (e.g. tobacco)

On 9/10/2019 at 8:30 PM, Kax1 said:

No they disappear when I look at them so I'm only seeing them in my peripheral vision. The only reason I'm leanng towards this is because the first time I experienced them was on that drug. I didn't have fear as I was high then. Sometimes the dots are coloured or like sparkles but usually black. It's so scary when I over think. I'm probably the only person on this sight wanting a hppd diagnoses, but if I knew it was that I could work on healing. I feel so guilty on my baby as my anxiety hinders me at times

Is Cocaine the ONLY drug that you've EVER taken?

It's not an Hallucinogenic, that's why I asked. I'm not extremely surprised though, and I bet this site is full of people with HPPD that haven't taken Hallucinogens. For me it seems like a dopaminergic system problem

Hi! My girlfriend (29) and me (35), we're both presenting exactly the same sleep symptoms after a period of drug abuse.

Drug abuse details: we've been using for the last 2 years every 3-weeks approximately, although in the recent summer we went to festivals and that frequency naturally increased, even to 2 or 3 times a week. (crazy, I know...)
Substances in order of frequency: 4-ACO-DMT, 2CB, weed edibles, LSD, speed, MDMA, DMT

We started feeling "the symptoms" particularly after the LSD trip (around 100ug), last festival.

The symptom: as described by many here: problem maintaining sleep. No problem falling asleep, but after a couple of hours, constant bouts of waking up, conscious dreaming, etc. ALthough, even sleeping poorly, we're not particularly tired during the day... it's like we suffer a constant overstimulation.

The only visual phenomena that we have observed, is my girlfriend having some really faint CEV before bed, not disturbing at all, not even all the time.

We've tried melatonin with no result, and lorazepam with result (but since it reduces REM sleep, I don't think it's a good idea). Now we got clonazepam, and we're thinking of taking it at least short term, to normalize sleep, hoping that sleep itself will fix whatever is wrong in our brains. We'll add lavender oil capsules too.

Needless to say, we've stopped substance use, including caffeine, and we don't smoke. We've eaten extremely healthy, exercise regularly, etc etc. Really healthy life... except for psychedelics

The question for the forum is: does someone remember having similar sleep symptoms after psychedelic use but BEFORE other symptoms of HPPD appeared?

I'm worried that we might develop HPPD in the near future. I'm hoping that taking clonazepam now would serve as a "pre-treatment", giving our brains proper sleep to heal before developing anything more serious. 

Thanks!!!