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I got HPPD on December 30th 2014. So it's been 7 months. The first four, my entire life was consumed by HPPD. Now after going through some other things, I don't even think about it at all. I rarely get on this forum anymore.

It's very severe. After images, distortion, visual snow, light trails, etc.... Eventually I just quit letting it absorb my thoughts and it's like I don't even have it anymore. I've smoked pot a few times, and I can say it makes it worse in the short term, but I never smoke day by day so I occasionally toke and enjoy it.

Alcohol doesn't effect my symptoms. I've been taking vyvanse (dextro amphetamine) once every week (or was, 2 months ago), to see its effects. It made the visual snow bad for about 24 hours than went back to normal.

So, in conclusion, HPPD can be far from life consuming. My advice is to ignore it as much as possible, and also, DP/DR. DP/DR was extremely bad for me, but once practiced my thinkng habits and lowering the amount of anxiety in my life, it went away too. I still get it when I get anxious, but it's uncommon. Know it's not something g physically wrong with your brain, just a state of mind brought on by trauma. Avoid taking any hallucinogens, but most of all, if ANY drug messes with you or makes you feel uncomfortable, don't take it! We're all unique. Have a nice and happy life ))

No, you can drink coke and stuff and be just fine, coffee makes it a lot worse for me though, but that has triple the caffeine soda does.

You should know that derailization is brought on by fear and anxiety; but there isn't actually anything physically wrong with your brain. Once you manage to ignore the hppd as much as possible and not worry about it, even if its bad, the derailization will stop completely. But even thnking about hppd can bring it on instantly. Just keep on ignoring it as much as possible.

We don't know nothing about HPPD is really known but the best guess is the 5ht2a being down regulated effecting how serotonin works in the brain. As for healing though, who knows. It's possible it just takes a really long ass time for the brain to fully repair that part of the brain to full functionality. Not to upset anyone, but personally I think it's permanent for people who have heavy tracers and after images and visual snow such as me. I live with it just fine luckily, but it does for sure get better in time if drugs are avoided. The best way to heal hppd is to ignore it as much as you can and eventually your life will be normal again. Took me a while to adjust. 

*even though it can be he'd to sleep. I can't stop smoking pot sadly it's just so great. I'm gonna stop now though, I doubt this will go away though

I hate HPPD. If It could just be CEV's and nothing else I would be happy to have it

David Nutt is very much pro "lsd as a medicine" and is unlikely to highlight potential issues like HPPD.

He is an interesting person and I respect some of his views, but he is too pro-LSD to help our cause. The best hope for us is that the experiment highlights some areas of the brain that we have yet to think of in our search for an answer.

Hey j I was wondering if you've tried lions mane?

Neither do you, however I think the norm is for parents to be supportive and since he clearly said that his parents ask him about his emotions I think we can infer that his are. and even so, I'm willing to bet more harm is done by keeping anxiety bottled up than is done by informing someone who may not be supportive(though unlikely)

Simply false, not telling one's parents about crippling anxiety over something leads to more anxiety, I know this. Just knowing that my mother knows what I'm going through has helped me immensely as I no longer need to hide it from her. Just because someone can't make any objective changes to your condition doesn't make them useless in your struggle. This kid is 14 years old, let him fall back on his parents.

Don't tell your parents, they can't help you. Derailization isn't something wrong with your brain so don't worry about that, it's only brought on by anxiety and worrying. You can't do anything about the visuals, just don't do any drugs for a while and ignore them as much as you can, I'm see your life will return to normal even with a few minor visual changes such as HPPD.good luck man

I've been drinking and smoking a lot too. Really I'm just fine with drinking and then I don't smoke, I only get tempted to smoke when I'm sober. Maybe don't buy pot and if you're friends have it I guess will power.

Basically it's different for everyone, in my opinion I've been getting too drunk lately haha if it bothers you afterwards just don't drink anymore

Surprisingly pot doesn't effect me much but NyQuil fucks me up. Alcohol never did anything but last night I got drunk and today my symptoms were pretty bad

My HPPD was mild until it wasn't. I don't remember the specific moment it happened. So beware. I was able to function taking drugs for more than a year. Then I wasn't able to function while taking drugs, but if I did went sober.. then I was able to function. Now I'm not able to function and I'm not taking any drugs.

I will put my experiences:

2-cb: Worst of all. Tiredness, physical aspects (related to those you feel on those 2-cb, but mild) and colorful and big static. The mind was in a bad state. Always. Recovered in a couple weeks. Other 2c-x make the symptoms worse, but 2c-b was especially bad.

LSD: Worse symptoms. Not a lot, but worse. In a few weeks, almost baseline.

Amphetamines: Didn't fuck much with me in a mental state, even improved my mental symptoms if I was coming from alcohol or 2c-b. Longer trails though.

Modafinil: Longer trails. It seemed to mess with me mentally. Worse than amphetamines.

Alcohol: Very bad brain fog. Worse in almost all areas. More static, much worse palinopsia.. I used to be baseline (previous symptoms) in one or two weeks. Now 1-2 months, at least.

Nbomes: The drug that caused the HPPD. Didn't do much to worse it. It caused me to be fucked up intellectually though. That is reported by people who took the drug and didn't have HPPD though.

DMT: Interestingly it didn't make me go worse.

5-meo-dmt: Worse symptoms, but not as bad as 2c-b.

Ketamine: Very bad. Definitely a no-go like 2c-b. I had sounds, physical symptoms like loosing control of my hands, and realistic hallucinations. That's days later. The effects dissipated fast though.

MDMA: Worse visuals, not much more. The effects of the drug are intensified and are not comfortable.

Weed: The same as with MDMA.

Caffeine: Now it affects me way more than before.

Salvia: Worse symptoms.

Cocaine: I didn't notice much, I didn't spent much money on this one though. And the purity, you know..

MDPV: Worse symptoms. But it's a very shitty drug and only took it one time.

Opioids: No problem with those. Only tried codeine and opium though.

DXM: Worse symptoms. Plus shitty drug.

Anesthesia: Didn't notice much, if anything.

Tobacco: Worse symptoms, but I smoke maybe one day in three months... So I can't attribute it to HPPD itself. Fast recovery.

That's the ones that I remember now. But most drugs make symptoms noticeably worse. And the ones that don't, I doubt are helping to achieve recovery.

Take all my descriptions with almost null value. I put them so other people can relate or not to my experiences. Some of them are when my HPPD was mild or even very low, and others are when it was beginning to be worse.

If I took any of those drugs today.. I would probably put them in a very bad position. Alcohol initially wasn't that bad, and now I would prefer to be hit with a bat than to take one beer.

Wow, thanks for this. Do you remember how much DXM you took? I just now took 80mg, not enough to make someone trip but whenever I take NyQuil I take a little more than I'm supposed to. im surprised you could take so many drugs while having HPPD. Did you just stop because it started being really bad out of no where?

What's up guys, I was bored and made another stupid decision earlier when I was kinda high, took I'd say 4 big sips of zzzquil. I felt absolutely amazing for hours, just really relaxed and muscles were chilled out. I was definetly high, the main ingredient in it is known to make people trip balls if taken too much of. I wanted to hear what's your guys thoughts are or experiences with zzzquil or something like that. I woke up and yes, my HPPD was worse, but not enough to bother me that bad. After images were really strong, visual static was hoeing always is (annoying) and motion trails stayed the same.

Are you still recovering though or did this put you back to square one?

I hope I'm recovering, square one for me wasn't so bad to begin with, now I feel it's actually worse then it was at the start. I just can't stand the snow. Don't take stimulants homie.

I got it from NBOMe 3 months ago tomorrow. I was sober for a while and started drinking again, my symptoms were almost gone besides the motion trails. Then I smoked pot again, worse for a day but then back to normal. Then a took a vyvanse and I think that made it worse, motion trails are really strong now. Started dipping because I'm pathetic and need drugs some way. Stay sober and you'll be fine, if it never goes away its not so bad to live with. A lot of the time I don't even notice it.

Hey all, I decided since my HPPD is mild I would, for science, take these drugs and give a report.

Cannabis- nothing noticeably bad during the high, however very much increased visual static for about 11 or 15 hours afterwards. Specifaclly in the dark as well. Opinion: isn't gonna do anything permanent with extremely moderated use but not recommended. Will probably have long lasting negative effects of not moderate.

Vyvanse - no real increase in visual sympotms. However, I have mild HPPD and could be worse with people who have it worse than me. Should be fine to take though. If it bothers you, don't take it again. If not, moderate it.

I think maybe we could get on professors asses all the time but that's about it. I'm constantly contacting Virginia tech about doing some studies.

Stay strong man. People live with worse and you never know when you're quality of life might return.

I know if the right people researched it for a while there would be a cure but no one cares about us because we did drugs

Right on. I smoked weed today and it made it worse. Stay clean and heal friends.

Hey HPPD'ers, figured I could shine some light.

The first thing my consciousness placed into reality was that not only do we have this disorder, possibly forever, we were bound to have this disorder. Chances are everyone of us would take psychedelics again if we weren't plagued by HPPD. This was going to happen to us, inevitably, as part of our life cycle.

Secondly, it's not the end of the world. I live my life day by day just like I did before, visuals or no. They are there, just like you, but, it doesn't bother me. Why? Because they are supposed to be there. Because I took hallucinogens and put them there myself. So, in the same way my brain phases out my nose from my vision, the sooner I stopped thinking about it, the less I noticed them. (The less I saw stuff!)

And lastly, I dealth with DP/DR at possibly it's highest level, borderline insane. Reality was faded, I was behind a dirty glass panel and couldn't think clearly. Understand DP/DR is NOT an illness. It's not like HPPD. It's part of your sunconscious, and is caused by anxiety, but mostly thinking about it. So next time you find yourself slipping, ignore it, don't even think about it. Watch tv play a game. And most importantly, know it will go away. Eventually with enough practice of ignoring it, even though it's there, it will be gone, and will never return. It's in your head. Love derailed for a time and accept it, be depersonalized. Be happy you are alive. Live with it and ignore it. Then it's gone.

Have a wonderful life HPPD people

Granted I've only had HPPD for 2 months. On my Last post, someone who's had it for 32 years was there, and one who's had it for 17 years. How come some people are stuck forever, yet very few ever say it's gone completely?

Maybe I just need to face facts and accept its never going away. Really, I'm used to it at this point, honestly. Maybe I'm just butthurt I can't smoke pot anymore. Either way, I do hope it goes away, but I never see anyone who says it went away and never came back.

Wait shadowplay you still trip? How do you plan to recover?