Lucid206

snort it

seriously... opiates are so better then any legal drug(nic,alc) very safe, if ur a slave to the needle...... id prolly be but even professionals cant find a good vein to shoot me in.... i dig tramadol . vicodin, oxycodone.... much more then heroin..... tho im not picky... just sucks snortin black tar..

alot of my best friends are mexican, so i hear you.

im so sorry, you got dosed with something that wasnt lsd

"n August 2008 , I took a small dose of LSD , after 3 hours I did not notice anything and I went home , but 1 hour after effects began , I had a bad trip."

true lsd comes on in 15mins, maybe 30..... some rare people it takes 60mins...... 3 hrs? thats a designer psychedelic... shulgins shiet.

well... thats what my old psychiatrist said... i have sence left cause all the meds didnt work..

was on prozac.... that turned into 4point restraints, suicide watch...

then was on mega doses of paxil, didnt help at all.

then... paxil mixed with seroquel, im not psychotic.. was no point but took her shit anyways

i didnt respond.. to the meds..

after that

mirtazipine

imipramine

list goes on till i just said fuck this, you cost to much money.

i was 100% dp/dr in the late 90's..............

i barley feel it these days... but yes since it made me mostly catatonic for a few years i still have episodes of it.... use to be not a problem, now (for example) a good friend of mine came back from cali... i knew we had bad blood cause i called his new girl a homewrecker when he was suicidal about his wife and kid dissapearing (because of her) and he decided to rip all my friends off.. didnt touch shit of mine, he just knew me well enough to know it'd hurt me psychological style...

i didnt leave my bed from nov-jan.... cause yes, shock to the mind man, i do have bad days sometimes worse days....

but yes dp/dr is nothing when i come out my rutt.... drugs don't cause it .. infact a few snorts of amphetamine was the reason i started goin out again..

dp/dr is a fucked disorder////// but ive lived years without problems with it.... it is ALWAYS with me.... and can be triggered, very very badly...

shits no joke. but i dont have an 'episode' unless im very depressed... and im not a depressive person.... dp/dr nowadays feels like a manic episode here and there.... but unlike HPPD it dosent have a basis on my day to day life 'anymore'......... maybe a day or 2 a year... or as stated above, emotional bs will turn me into a zombie again, as its always there(tho i dont fucking have it anymore perm)

make sence?

TF? really?

true anxiety can not be managed this way. eat eggs for breakfast, thats all you need, to get enough.

ive heard alot of crazy shit blamed on hppd, but... lmao

if anything i lost my sex drive.

but ya fuk pen state's cover ups.. no better then catholics.

if you have true anxiety brain-chemistry(not learnt behaviour like socialphobia or ptsd) there's really nothing CBT could do for you.. you can be a champ and learn to deal with it and come out on top, i on the otherhand, pick the cowards way out... benzos,alc...

THC induced hppd is kinda like fishing in cement.

id go for the phrase burn-out... thc does not cause hppd, and even in my heaviest days of usage pre-hppd did it get me even near HPPD like visuals.

im not gonna start a debate, i honestly dont got the anger for that shit anymore, but you need to reconfigure ur dance with those lines. THC will cause DP/DR, anxiety disorders, perma-lethargy.. all sorts of shit... HPPD.. not in a million tokes in a sitting.

you were starting to make sence after all the stimulator nonsence that 'expert' is pushing on you.

"after dropping acid several more times your brain will without question get damaged because you keep pushing your brain away from a healthy balance. "

without question is harsh, study on the willing participants in Project MKULTRA the cia conducted, where instead of the uninformed ... lsd doseing, these guys were dosed for MONTHES, and a few who talk about it say nothing of lasting effects. LSD was eventually dismissed by MKULTRA's researchers as too unpredictable in its results, then illegalized for this reason...that or the hippy movment they were overwhelmed by.. ur choice

LSD and similar common psychedelics do not work like common drugs of abuse, METH COCA HEROIN(even THC) etc work by a mimic of transmitters, Classic' Psychedelic hallucinogens set off a natural chemical reaction the brain coulda got to in the first place (lsd is just the ticket, it has characteristic effects for sure and even i cant denie that, but the LSD is 99.9% out of your body before you even feel the first fundamental peak.. so your basicly saying our brain can naturally damage itself, which is true.. but im more for the side of that reaction never fully stopping, so yes a unhealthy balance, but the word damage gets thrown around alot with hppd and if anything my iq, mindset ...all of the above mentally improved with the constant abuse of LSD(its even considered a smart-drug) .. i feel flashbacks are something anyone can have(cause our brain is hardwired with psychedelics naturally) just oldschool psychedelic abusers find a familiar state when they enter the 'flashback' and blame the dose. i say all this cause imbalance(i agree) damage(very thin) unless you feel anything outside the norm is damage. (there are many people who fast and keep themselfs awake for extended periods of time to acheive a natural psychedelic effect(that yes, rivals lsd.), this can NOT be ignored when studying LSD and HPPD.

"Let's say your brain was wired a certain way that when you did LSD...your neurotransmitters (brainchemistry) started to become imbalanced. I mean LSD or any other given drug with some psychoactive effect can't be good for everyone, can it?"

is a great quote btw. im not trashing you, knowledge is power. GABA receptors btw, have nothing to do with HPPD. has alot to do with Anxiety, etc.

"So I'm sure all you people out there have heard of stories of people take prescribed drugs such as Lexapro, Paxil, Zoloft and getting HPPD."

visual snow is not hppd.

all in all well thought into.

just to be clear im not pro-lsd for everyone, know your mind, know your body... know your substance... what did alot here think they were getting into with lsd? i was the kind who was misinformed without the ready knowledge the net has today and thought lsd was toxic as fuck and i could die any dose and still ate it everyday(at 13 years old till around 15, then used 3 times a week before the drought, nowadays i just do it to be sitters for friends who wana do it or do it often, cause honestly its been years since it became predictable as fuck and unintresting repeated thoughtloops tho i still really enjoy movies on it ). if your heart wasnt in it, i feel sorry for you.. some people call lasting mind effects of LSD (not hppd) OPENMINDING and changed them for the better. that same openmind also has driven many lsd users who didnt have their heart in it to suicide, lifelong mental disorganization and pretty much being part of the crowd wasnt a good choice at that point.. this is alot to do with being PUSHED, FORCED to see yourself as you are, not as you were raised, to some people ignorance is bliss.. and when its taken from you... earthquake.

tho i have sympathy for the unknowenly dosed, cut pills which contain a chem that they didnt want or some dick at a party spikeing the punch with POWERFUL shit..

but for the rest of us, what was our original reason for trying lsd... did it not blow your mind. hehe

1hit of lsd saved me from being a street thug pos, im forever grateful for the wisdom in that first hit... the other trips after- were just trying to understand something no man could grasp and intentionally reprogramming myself into a un-modded human being, as well as understanding myself more then most people do in a lifetime.. When i got back from the festival of my first dose i had to write on my wall, everything i was raised to beleive and have beleived is all a lie. FREE

i repeat. LSD is not for everybody. seekers. thats it.

Been having warning signs (light warping/breathing) for 6 months before i first posted here, then initially ignored yalls good advice and did MDMA another couple of times. Right after my last MDMA roll i noticed some light visual snow, and over the past few weeks the following developed:

-tracers

-occasional vertigo

-light visual snow

-closed eye visuals

-floaters

-spirally patterns in the sky

-light glare, light halos

-light movement/breathing

-sometimes ghosting

-sometimes static pulsing - like everything is just.... i guess pulsing is the right word lol... (this JUST started as i started writing this post)

All of this is in the realm of "mild". I haven't touched any drugs for 3 weeks since that mdma except for new years when i got blackout on alcohol and xanax (which i took unknowingly - bad night). The hangover was awful and i came close to a panic attack and got me with DP-type feelings which thankfully didnt last.

I need advice from all you HPPD'rs. I know i cant get that drunk ever again. But 2-3 beers is probably fine right? And what about opiates and cocaine.... I know i shouldnt be doing drugs at all but i've already given up everything else so i feel like ive made some progress... How do they affect you? Make it worse in the short term/ long term? Especially how do these substances affect DP? im ready to give up everything completely but im stubborn if i dont know for sure.

didnt read the replys

Opiates i find my drug of choice nowadays (my pleasure in psychedelics has fallen as its more a nostalgia trip for me then learning/fun) very relaxing, very comforting(unless your like a buncha people i know and get nausea from it, if not id recommend them + benzos just to take the edge off hppd, opiates are pretty safe '''''if you know what your doing''''' stay on the pills not the needle.

Cocaine i honestly have nothing but disrespect for, its the most garbage drug to start with and it just keeps you wigged out due to multiple doseing a night. not good for anyone with any form of mental problems.

Alcohol... careful

i think hppd in my experience threw my eyes and physical reactions is almost a constant vertigo since nothing is stable.. when im on top of a building i cant find my balance at all, no fear of heights etc.. just mental/visual overload from said disorder.

HPPD is like living underwater, constantly moving, id pay good money for 12 hrs of clear walls, cause itd be as much of a trip as lsd was first. (ive lived half my life with hppd now, 14-15years) i dont really recall what it was like not to be caught in a current, spinning feelings cause those with full-blown hppd.... NOTHING is still.... the clearest picture i get visually, is on TV's and monitors, as its hard to hallucinate to a flickerrate.. tho the visuals are still present on screen but //behind my monitor... ha.

glad to see the community has risen and things are back in focus

What are yalls experiences like with caffeine and nicotine? I've had a couple short episodes of DP before (the longest lasting 3 days which occured after an alcohol blackout on new years) and have been a little anxious at times since that.

That last episode made me drop all drugs in fear of becoming dp'd forever. But im a pretty frequent smoker and i've noticed that cigarettes occasionally increase anxiety. Not so sure about caffeine but i normally drink that every day too.

Could they lead to increases/permanent DP by any chance? When it comes to alcohol - i gave up getting "fucked up" but i still drink a little bit (a few beers) and get tipsy on occasion. Bad idea?

Alc is bad news, ive done every drug knowen to my research multiple times and the worst illegal drugs uve heard of ive spent years on. ALC is the only drug that has almost killed me(pancreatitis) i still drink here and there... ive grown agoraphobic in my late 20's and reality is very ... fuck reality without alcohol lol. dumb me down, primates are morons .. alc has a headfactor ive grown aware of after stepping out of constant alcoholism, i dont think right at all for a couple days after a night of drinkin.. take from that what you will... shits poison.

NIC - i switched to e-cigs which i recommend. tho nic is still there, ur daily dose of pseudo-anti-depressiants and bs carcinogens/tar etc are cut from the product(tho its not well knowen the longterm effects of PG/VG the vapor(tho both are in tobacco, just in much lower amounts.) a tolerent nic user should barley feel stimulated, more relaxed then anything. but smoking is horrid, give it up.

Caff - ive dranken daily since a toddler, i find it give me a moodlift and a stimulated focus.. but otherwise benign.

in the end DP/DR is a steady companion one must master snapping out of if overwhelmed.. hard to blame drugs when ur alrdy in the midst of it, to each his own tho - chemicals react on the brain . shit ive found that things like guilt, anger etc are more liable of my dp/dr episodes, dp/dr unlike hppd, can be very overcome - but itll always be a part of you.

im so sry people im just sick, mental and physical..

now im sittin around tourt... for what ive done to you all in the last few days..

just sober up.... for everyones fucking sake.

wind, if that was towards me.. no not my liver..

lucky me i quit when this lil knowen, organ behind ur stomach called a pancreas, im a well study of anatomy... and i never even heard of it, untill a 6 day f/ing vist to a hospital hehe.. no food, no water.......... just 2mg of morphine and 1mg of lorazepam.. in the water-electrolyite iv im sry if i mispelled, i do that shiet alot.

they said, if i didnt have anything to eat for 10 days, they had to stick a tube down my throat...

lil did they know... it had alrdy been 22.

yes i have to say once again

IMO- ssris made me go from a carefree guy, into suicidal... man ya dont want to hear it all.. carful with those

wow, that almost made me throw up

me too brother.

i had ridial nerve palsy, for a little under 3 months.. nothing worked but B vitamin shots. i just got over it.

pain pills def do not help neuropathy pain, dont try that.

im about to be in CBT myself btw-not for depression tho.. anxiety.

cause none of the prescribed legal meds worked lol, only the illegal ones.

and my pancreas cant handle them anymore, nor my friends and family hehe.

understood, once i get heated all hell breaks loose.. on this board and in my life lol.

clarity is coming back, ima calm it down for sure.

man, i dont even know who you are and been workin with dk since 1999... ban me for all i care(just as meth lab, one of the first people to bring hppd to others attention and the only mod on stormloader got banned cause he was on a tweak binge and said the wrong things outta his hat.. last time i talked to him he had the nerve to say i became soft , lol). freedom of speech i like more then being censored.. do what you must. . as i said, i was on a binge a relapse, i had been off drugs for awhile and took it to far.. when i came back to this board my intention was not to get into one argument just common help for people, but the drugs got the best of me and now once again im at war with you people.

ive sobered up now and want no part of this debate, and neraly this website

my real reason for dislikeing dr a?

i spent YEARS debateing with the pro-psychedelic communitys on the web about the existance of hppd and his writtings and diagnosis of people who obviously didnt have it made us ALL look like fakers...now that the pro psychedelic community is on our side for the most part threw years of myself and many other's banging our heads against their blank minds(and we are pro-psychedelic as well) just kinda makes the name sound worst then satan to christians to me.

go ahead man, moderate me... i helped create this community and have never heard of you.ive contributed more to this community then you care to realize or even know.

i was a mod myself on hppdonline...i was one of the only ones who helped bring people from stormloader and design the originol hppdonline.. that dosent give me the right to start a war, but drugs are a bitch, and i choosed the wrong ones to relapse on... no more excuse's.. i fucked up, i realize this.

ahh christ why do i even post things hehe.

" Putting "IMO" doesn't give you free reign to say whatever you want."

yes it does, it means that those are my feeling's and shouldent be taken as the word of god..

"Either put up a real, reasoned argument as to why you don't think people should trust Dr Abraham or stop posting. Paranoid ramblings don't help anyone."

no thx, ive been doing that for 10 years, at this point id rather talk shit.

"You seem to be upset that he charges money... have you seen how much it costs to become a doctor? I guess architects, pilots and the like should also give you a free ride?"

no im upset cause hes made a carrier off anti-drug bs, for over 40 years hes barley has done a damn thing for it, maybe comfort the desperate.. my true hard feelings towards him came from a number of misdiagnosis's he gives people for HPPD, when hes never even done a psychedelic drug. its like trying to do heart surgery without every seeing a heart.. he learned to corner a market noone else would touch..

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Lucid,

if he finds anything that would even help hppd at a 1% level

There are plenty of people that get better than 1% relief from all sorts of effort. The real clincher is to gain a lot more so life is easier.

People have to keep trying. And they have to change their lifestyle that caused the problem in the first place.

I’ve worked very hard for 4 years and have made perhaps 75% recovery. And I am 50 years old – an age when the body doesn’t heal quickly anymore. So many visiting this forum should hold on to hope. Even if the medical community isn’t up to par with this

i ment him personally. many of us have recovered a great deal mentally, my point is his motivation will always be money motivated... dr's dont write anti-drug books etc for the hell of it.. ive been reading everything he has put out with one of his partners L', lerner? i agree with the other guy alot but DR. A dosent seem to have any motivation except $.. hes givin me no other reason to beleive other wise..

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in the end im sry about the bs i spit the last couple days, relapsed hardcore for the holiday weekend and just sobered up so feel a bit bad about it.. but to be blunt yet, IN MY OPINION hes full of shit. ive been stateing that on HPPD community boards since 1999 for fuck sake. its like saying i cant hate the president cause the mass population likes him.. give me a break. IMO means just that.

my point is.. nm.. support him, suck satans cock .. i could careless.. hes done more to hurt the permafried the help them 'IMO'