Honeycat

Hi, I got HPPD twice from mescaline and then psilocybin. Both lots of HPPD involved symptoms not listed in your "common symptoms" and I believe my psilocybin case of HPPD may be one of the worst cases of HPPD you will have heard of. I got mescaline-induced HPPD mid September 2020 and wasn't fully better, but was a lot better when I got psilocybin-induced HPPD in February. It was absolutely horrific and I had to be put on 4mg of clonazepam which helped quite a lot for 3 months until my psychiatrist decided to start ripping me off them too fast. My HPPD came hard and fast and when I was put back on 4mg it no longer worked and I was thrown into living Hell. There was a time where I truly believed there was only one way for my story to end. Psychedelics and benzos combined have ruined my life for now.

It wasn't from MDMA or LSD, but if I'm still of help I would like to take part in your study. 

On 5/12/2021 at 1:20 PM, Ok-Shock-5135 said:

Hi guys, this is my first post so apologies if I'm doing something wrong.

Is there anyone here who got HPPD from Mescaline/Peyote and only that?

Logically, any psychedelic can cause HPPD, and Mescaline is a psychedelic. It's a Substituted phenethylamine, just like 2C-B, which can cause HPPD. However, I have yet to find a single case of someone getting it from just mescaline. John Halpern did a study on some Native Americans, some of which had used Peyote hundreds of times, and found no cases:

"We specifically screened the 80 potential participants... in the peyote group for a history of hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (“flashbacks”);... none reported this condition."

Mescaline is not a common drug by any measure, but I would expect to find at least one case. I emailed a Native American church and out of thousands of people who the respondent had guided through Peyote trips, none reported HPPD. The closest things I found were Havelock Ellis's "heightened sensitivity to the more delicate phenomena of light...", which I don't believe is HPPD as his report was very positive about Mescaline, or "Fleeting Afterimages" reported after mescaline by 4 people who were administered it in a study mentioned here. Sartre also reported being followed by crabs for years after using mescaline, but that doesn't sound like HPPD. The other cases of HPPD mentioning Mescaline invariably mentioned use of many other psychedelics, and Mescaline was never the one last used before the onset of HPPD.

If anyone here got HPPD from mescaline or any mescaline-containing plant, then I'd love to hear about it, and if not perhaps we need to look into whether Mescaline could be considered safe - or at least safer.

4 hours ago, user4 said:

Im basically saying its not worth the risk to take it.

Hi, I had an intense trip on San Pedro/mescaline. Out of this world frightening and trippy. Thought I was dead at the end of it.

Got HPPD from that alone. Bad. Started with me waking suddenly and seeing energy connecting everything in the room. Then I kept getting thrown into my trip every time I tried to sleep. It was like being thrown into a tornado of visual and audio energy and it was TERRIFYING. I'd feel confused and disorientated, unsure if I had ever left the trip in the first place.

Then one night a few nights after the trip I heard a voice telling me something about the universe that shook me to the core.

One morning my perception was as though I was back in the trip.

Another morning I saw an infinity sign and I was given a message about the universe. In the moment i clearly understood. Then I was left confused after. It was something about like... it doesn't matter what you do... maybe everything is pre-determined. And everything is happening at the same time.

I didn't sleep for 3 days straight out of fear.

At night my partner looked like a corpse. My cat's eyes looked bruised. My dog's face looked too long. People's pet photos on Facebook looked so eerie.

I kept expecting reality to shatter around me.

I had a panic attack over a SpongeBob episode. 

When all the really terrifying stuff passed I was left with intense closed-eye visuals, usually frightening. Some like clear movies. Like watching a dream conscious. Others darkened pictures of scary imagery. It was like the pathway between sleep and wakefulness was broken.

I got random photographic memory, but not that I could control.

Random lazer lights in the room. Wavy air and patterns. Mild visual snow in certain lighting. Floaters. 

I could summon the mist I saw on mescaline and sometimes I got peripheral hallucinations. 

Unfortunately I didn't stop psychedelics after that. I was too intrigued and had too much existential crisis. Now my HPPD is much worse from mushrooms as well when my mescaline induced HPPD was beginning to heal. Now I live in Hell, am frightened 24/7 and wish I didn't exist.