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1 hour ago, MadDoc said:

We all experience psychedelics a little differently, but you might not have taken LSD.  There are so many tweaked molecules available out there, it's hard to know.  If you don't know the chemist, "street" drugs can be a crap shoot.  Long, long ago I took a dose of "acid" and ended up tripping for over two days.  I think it was DOM (aka STP).  

No matter, you've had an experience and you're dealing with the aftermath.  You didn't mention how long ago you dosed.   Lingering effects can hang around for a while.  Dosing can be a huge shock to the system to say the least!

The good news is you've dosed once.  I'm no expert on hppd, but I suspect the fewer times you've dosed the better your chances that hppd symptoms won't be perminent .  As Jay mentioned, stay clean!  I can't stress that enough.  Do the best you can to keep your life moving and don't ever give up on yourself.

Hang in there and take care.

Thank you "MadDoc" for your reply and concern also. 

After doing a drug test it was found that it is in fact LSD but thanks for the warning. You would've thought it was a research chemical after all that trouble the acid has caused. However, sorry to know about your bad experience - sounds rough.

To clarify, LSD ingestion was in mid-June this year so it's approximately 4.5 months post-incident. 

Trust me I will remain clean even from pharmaceutical drugs like anti-depressants. Thanks for the encouragement, I too think it would be more likely however other users of this forum suggested otherwise (in fact the counter saying that those who abuse drugs then get HPPD are more likely to recover because somehow they're not predisposed to it in the same way as first-timers). 

Other than sobriety, do you have any other tips? Any thoughts or practices you adopt to get you through? 

On 10/25/2019 at 10:14 AM, Jay1 said:

Hi, welcome to the forum. That's a very scary thing to happen while tripping. Let's hope the doctors are right in that it will settle. Try not to blame yourself, you did a drug, like millions of other people do, you just got unlucky. Regret is a wasted emotion.  Focus on getting better.

I'm sure you have delved into the forum enough now to know what to do in these early months... No drugs, minimise/no alcohol, no caffeine, avoid stress, try not to over think, eat healthy, exercise. Are you on any medication/supplements?

 

Hi Jay. Thanks for taking the time to respond and welcome me. Yes it is a scary thing and those effects are still lingering - and we're about 5 months post-incident.

I know it's no use blaming myself but it's inevitable; it's hard not to especially with the amount I'm suffering at the moment.

I tried taking lions mane and 5-HTP, as well as other supplements such as marine collagen, vitamin C, vitamin B complex, etc. None of those are really helping at all.

After a recent visit to the psychiatrist, I was suggested to take Lexopro, mirtazapine, and diazepam but not taking them. As you can imagine I'm put off from adding an external chemical to modify my brain state albeit the purpose is for it to be helpful. 

Any thoughts?

Thanks once again for your insights and concern.

For me, my sleep problems got exasperated from LSD use. To answer your question

In my view, it's counter-intuitive to continue with the psychedelics bc it's the one category of drugs that cause HPPD. I got HPPD from one time use of LSD. Especially also since you recognise your symptoms were virtually noticed with the LSD. Doesn't make sense why you'd not be in total drug cessation 

5 hours ago, dayum_son said:

Let's say that it is LSD that landed me on this forum.

Shit yeah, me too. How many times had you taken it? You mentioned you took other drugs so are you certain the effects are from LSD as opposed to say, weed?

Hi guys. Came across this blog: https://cbd-bill.com/cbd-did-more-than-help-my-hppd/ which is relevant to this thread. I have only started using CBD oil myself. Would be curious to see who has tried it and if it helped them with their HPPD? From research alone, I can see why one may be drawn to it based on appeal. Would be good to hear from those would tried it and to see if it made any difference for them. Cheers

On 9/29/2019 at 11:11 PM, dayum_son said:

I can say with confidence that Kratom did worsen my visuals. And mixing it with weed was a big no no.

And every single other drug I take/took worsens my symptoms. Even potassium/calcium supplements. The only one that didn't do anything noticeable was cocaine. And as far as I can remember, many people noticed this too. But cocaine is by far the shittiest drug I tried after LSD.

Why did LSD affect you the worst? Just curious because I hold the same view despite only trying LSD xD lol

This is a long shot but can the people who developed eye squint/strabismus/lazy eye, return to this forum and comment on whether their eye condition due to the ingestion of drugs had returned to normal (i.e. eye state prior to drug use)? So far has it turned out to be long lasting/permanent or did in fact things return to normal after the cessation of drug use? Would appreciate any feedback on that as I have a strabismus in left eye which I was pre disposed to but didn't have until one time use of LSD. Thank you

Also his reporting of the strabismus appears to be from a different drug - kind of like the reports being about heroin but still relevant in regards to developing the eye condition from the ingesting of an illicit drug. I wish there would be some info regarding LSD itself - maybe it makes a difference? His post was from 2012 so I doubt he'd still be active on this forum, but possible. Might try to reach out. But in any case, the doctor at A and E did inform me that some people develop strabismus from using their eye muscles a lot when hallucinating and that in his view, it does settle over time but variable. I don't know why I have such difficulty in trusting doctors lol, I guess it's because whenever they reassured me they tend to be wrong and vice versa. 

Yes it's super interesting. Indeed that was the source from which I obtained the information about the <6 months: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/62f1/9f106244bfdaae43389114080cee434c1df6.pdf (Sutter, F.K.P. and Landau, K., 2003. Heroin and strabismus. Swiss medical weekly, 133(1920)). Shows that one woman (listed number 2) recovered after about 5 months. Which does reinforce some sense of hope for me as I know heroin is a more potent drug on the body than LSD.

What did you suggest was extremely rare? I.e. that the strabismus caused by the LSD is permanent or that the strabismus is caused by the LSD at all?

Also I know I am thanking you a tonne but thanks for the link, saves me a lot of time, albeit I did attempt to fish through to find it.

Also I tried to find that post in your history but to no success xD. Any dates, key words, their username, anything? Thanks again

Was his strabismus permanent? Or did it go away? I saw with heroin users it can be caused acutely but tends to go away within 6 months. Not sure if I can draw similar conclusions to lsd. Thanks so much for your help

Thanks - also is it normal to develop a strabismus due to acid?

Thanks for your reply. Currently taking no medication but the psychiatrist thinks I should take Lexapro, sleeping pill and diazepam which I’m not taking.

i think I have got the adhd alongside the other issues but I am hoping it will settle since it’s been slightly under four months

I have never taken illicit drugs prior, but four months ago, LSD was taken and I hallucinated for 12 hours. In short, though, what I went through appears to be abnormal and certainly is a far cry from what can be found online about LSD related experiences. About 2 hours into intoxication, I felt like fainting, my body temperature increased dramatically, I was dizzy. Then, I saw a physical shift in my hair and eye, which changed in such a way that is in line with phenotypes expressed in my family - e.g. for my left eye, I developed a squint about 2 hours into the trip, which my sister and dad have. I was predisposed to adhd, and I firmly believe that I have virtually all of the characteristics. These changes are still with me to this day. I'm left not knowing if the LSD made this permanent mark on my state and it depresses me more than anything you can imagine. Doctors said it's down to stress and not the acid itself. Some of them also said a proportion of brains take longer to settle to normal. Of course, I've also got the HPPD which doesn't help matters. Regarding the HPPD, I have brain fog, severe/crippling depression, moderate anxiety, dp/dr, terrible headaches, halos around objects, positive after-images, spotters, floaters and vibrant spontaneous colours which blast when my eyes are shut or if there is a dark space. In addition, if I look enough at faces, they tend to morph as if I were tripping. It has left me in a terrible way.

By joining and being active on this platform, I am hoping to gain support, relatability potential and advice.

Try meditating

Has anyone out there heard of Dr Joe Dispensa's works? https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dr+joe+dispenza+testimonials

His fundamental argument is that through meditation, with the use of visualization, we can rid ourselves of any chronic illness or problem and attract the outcome we desire. This requires patience, repetition, and belief in the process though. So it is not easy and requires much time, effort and work. I guess some could say that this is synonymous with the Law of Attraction in terms of its aims. 

Has anyone tried doing this to help cure their HPPD? Does anyone think this method has any currency? 

It would be interesting to capture your views.

Hi All,

So I stumbled upon this forum through some in-depth searching about this condition HPPD which I realized sometimes accompanies the use of LSD, even one-time consumption. It is such a relief knowing that a support community exists which I can access in this manner.

My story

History: Never took illicit drugs. However about four months ago, an exceptional case involved LSD which retained an effect on my system for 12 hours. In short, though, what I went through appears to be abnormal and certainly is a far cry from what can be found online about LSD related experiences. About 2 hours into intoxication, I saw a physical shift in my hair and eye, which changed in such a way that is in line with phenotypes expressed in my family - e.g. for my left eye, I developed a squint about 2 hours into the trip, which my sister and dad have. I was predisposed to adhd, and I firmly believe that I have virtually all of the characteristics. These changes are still with me to this day. I'm left not knowing if the LSD made this permanent mark on my state and it depresses me more than anything you can imagine.

Doctors said it's down to stress and not the acid itself. Some of them also said a proportion of brains take longer to settle to normal. Of course, I've also got the HPPD which doesn't help matters.

Regarding the HPPD, I have brain fog, severe/crippling depression, moderate anxiety, dp/dr, terrible headaches, halos around objects, positive after-images, spotters, floaters and vibrant spontaneous colours which blast when my eyes are shut or if there is a dark space. In addition, if I look enough at faces, they tend to morph as if I were tripping. It has left me in a terrible way. No immediate support as far as family and friends. I think that is mainly down to the fact that they don't fully understand what I'm going through and how to help as a result. Further, I think they're leaning more towards the perception that I'm complaining about this stuff due to attention etc. Many of the accounts I read on this platform appear to come from abusers of drugs and not one-time users etc but I was hoping if any could let me know if they relate to anything I've mentioned at all, and any advice would be greatly welcomed. 

Just to say, as far as trying to help myself, I've seen neurologists (MRI came back normal), psychiatrists (i've been recommended Lexapro but yet to take it), joined support community forums and involving in talking therapy. Life is so miserable and I'm practically bed-bound!!! 

Thanks so much.