Traneboy

6 hours ago, Jay1 said:

While I don;t think it really affects hppd much (maybe very short term visual spike)... I don't think it helps in any way with your recovery. It is just more toxins that your body has to deal with.

Yes Jay, that is common sense. But then again, you should be the one to understand me the most, how traumatizing the visuals are. I went and signed a year off of college, because i couldn't stare at the PC, and that is bad, since i'm majoring in computer science. How do i cope if i basically do nothing everyday? I take some cigs to calm me down.

I started smoking because of desperation, i'd never smoke on my own. Thanks for your reply anyway, but I'm not dropping nicotine, especially since it is not expensive in my country.

I started smoking for the first time in my life at october 13 this year. I smoked almost daily since, 2 to 5 joints a day and the only thing i noticed was once i smoked 5 cigs in a row i felt a sudden head rush and a feeling i otherwise would get from 0.5 mg of Alprazolam. I later found that is common for beginners and that that is the adaptation period or just that i inhaled too much nicotine and my brain was losing some oxygen.

But before i continue to smoke cigs, can they theoretically worsen visual disturbances?

Has anyone tried nefiracetam? I searched the whole hppd forums and never found anything on it.

Well, one floater isn't hppd, sure. But when the brain suddenly starts to observe 5-10 floaters, it is a sign that the brain is being stimulated/hyperactive.

If you have trails and floaters, I could only based on that say that you have hppd, the severity is up to you to decide. But if you have one tiny floater, then no hppd.

It is hppd, trails and floaters are one of the symptoms that accompany hppd. I wouldn't suggest taking benzo, but since you already have hppd, you might aswell try to trake them when needed, or cycle 4 day on them and 3 days off of them.

If I were you, a senior in hs, i'd get myself some klonopin and do the cycles. Then i'd also take some propranolol. If I felt that I couldn't focus on anything because of anxiety, i'd even go on smoking pot. But carefully. 

Looks like i'll have to follow Jay's advice aswell and drop college for a year.

I never drank alcohol (besides 1-2 times a year of binge), never smoked cigs, never did illegal drugs, but hppd/vs still hit me. I see no point in abstaining from cigs or alcohol from now on. I need a relief, a ''get out of my mind'' sensation. I lived a life of abstain from things that all of my friends did. And I still fucked my brain, and they didn't. Sad, sad existence with no profits in the end. Life is a fucking joke.

Okay, so I don't know if the valerian, peppermint oil and phenobarbital I took worsened my visual snow, afterimages and tracers, but I plan to take a peppermint and valerian again without pheno. Should I be safe or better not to gamble?

If only it was that easy. Exercising in particular to me seems kind of a waste of time, but mainly because I don't have any energy, like wtf. I don't have energy even if I trained a whole week, i'll still feel the 8th day like i'm all fresh. So no idea how these people who got suddenly rid of all health problems go out on exercising.

Forgive me then.

I wasn't being mean, you asshole. I didn't say funny in a discriminatory way. But hey, you should've explained yourself more detailed if you didn't want us to make false judgements.

Same, I find it really funny that this guy finds his hppd got worse with no reason. I mean, a whole month on weed and you knew weed could give you panic attacks? And then you really get one and your father fucks you up even further by giving you opiods? I'm sorry for you, but you were gambling with your health for good.

Well, you don't need to believe it, just to know it is true. Luck is a concept that easily describes people's misfortune. It would be unnecessary long to really go into detail as saying 1 in 50,000 LSD users will get hppd, because that person is susceptible to it, since he has Gaba or NMDA receptor dysfunction or whatever, which landed him with hppd.

People on this forum are really the extremely unlucky folks that took drugs. There isn't a statistic to really point how many people develop hppd, but from how rare doctors encounter it, you might assume that it is rare. I mean, only Dr. Abraham, one guy on the whole planet is studying this? And he is doing this since the 80s, now that's sad and unfortunate to any hppders out there.

It does, as a concept. There are thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people taking LSD and a bunch of NBOMe, and never get hppd, and there are people who get one little dose of LSD and acquire hppd.

One important thing: Before November 7 2015, did you take anything, and I mean anything drug related? Not illicit, but prescription drugs? Very important. Something for a week or two before your symptoms got worse.

Well, bacopa seems to be some sort of natural antidepressant, but in the end, natural or pharmacy produced, it has the same effect, only the natural taken herb can't be measured for its dosage.

Anyway, bacopa might be more harmful than good to people with hppd and vs. There are people who got vs from ssri after taking them for several weeks. To me, i'd take bacopa if I feel like I can't go any longer, which i'm almost approaching that state, but right now it is gambling.

Yeah, here's what a fellow from vs forum wrote:

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Keppra, also a racetam (levetiracetam, to be exact) worked for some people from the hppd board and what a surprise… Racetams use to work as GABA derivate or initiate a huge release of GABA. In addition to it, they have anticonvulsive properties.

 

That leads to two possible conclusions:

 

1. Visual Snow and hppd are related to each other.
2. It’s all connected to GABA, respectively the GABA-a receptor.

 

Other symptoms like anxiety and concentration problems, underlines this theory.

 

But the fact, that a huge release of GABA don’t cures the conditions completely, leads to the assumption, that it’s the GABA receptor itself, which has an dys/mal or hypofunction.

 

So the one million dollar question is… What causes this dysfunction?
My personal theory is a combination of mercury poisoning and drugs/meds which use to work as strong GABA agonists, lyme disease, some kind of brain damaging (lessions, concussions) or a genetic disposition?

 

But the 100 million dollar question is… How can it be fixed?
Maybe with Ibogaine… It can increase the neuronal growing factor GDNF.

 

But if racetams are able to do this, then some kind of very good news is coming your way.

 

Brivaracetam – a new derivate of Keppra, which use to be 10 times more potent, is in phase III of the clinical studies, which means that it will be released in the immediate future.

 

Btw:  A collateral ingestion of choline is very shrewd, cause it use to strengthen the effect of racetams.

 

Phosphatidylserine also seems to be very interesting (I wonder how he found it…)
Also the ginkgo and the ginseng. Actually everything, he listed

 

But I still would ad some other things: Highly dosed Riboflavin, Magnesium and Ubiquinol.

 

Who knows... Maybe that would make the other 10 %...

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That would be great. But I actually might have lied about my vs not being from drugs. Yes, it might've not been from illicit drugs, but it probably started because i was years on Depakote for mild involuntary eye and nose twitching. I was 4 years on Depakote that my epileptologist put me on. The twitching went away and after a year and a half after i stopped Depakote, i was left with vs. It wasn't as tough as it is now, supposedly from pheno, with afterimages and trails, but it was with static, bfep, and floaters.

Maybe it's because of people like this topic starter that we still don't have a cure yet.

Ofc I don't deny that. I have vs and I don't have dp (supposedly, tho I can feel sometimes out of place). I never took illicit drugs. But these visual similarities in both VS and HPPD can't be triggered by different neurotransmitters, right? It is not like we have 2 fundamentally different brains.

I think stress and panic attacks are unlikely to trigger or worsen hppd. I don't have any data to confirm my statement, as there is none, but do you really not recall any strange substance, including medication or other absolutely new drug or food you've taken in the period you had your hppd worsen? If you really don't recall any new substance you took for the first time in your life about a month before your hppd worsening, then maybe it is stress, but I've had stressful years, not just weeks, and they didn't affect my vision, maybe 1-2% worsening, if any, really.

I was talking about brain metabolism, but whatever. Hppd and VSS are the same shit, caused by the same shit, but occurring to people under certain circumstances (from psychedelics or naturally). 

Or you could read the side effects section from the wiki page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenobarbital

I've had it before pheno, but it was mild. After that microdose of either pheno, or the herbs and vitamins I took, I started noticing more flickering and palinopsia in my vision. Apart from that I had static, bfep, floaters etc.

How do you know increased metabolism isn't the cause of hppd? I know for a fact that pheno increases metabolism, because when taken with other drugs, it will decrease their therapeutic effect. Pheno induces Cytochrome P450, which increases metabolism. Study http://www.jbc.org/content/261/16/7160.long

I started taking not so long ago phenobarbital for calming me down. I took maybe 15 mg 3 times in TOTAL across 2 weeks. In other words, 15 mg about every 3-4 days. I took some extra herbs with it and vitamins. I'm certainly sure it weren't the latter and it was pheno which fucked my visuals. The last, 3rd time, I took them 14 September and I'm not sure, but iirc the first time I noticed something weird was the next day, 15 September, but more closer to 16 September, it was late basically. I know pheno has a very long half life, and that's why I didn't notice a change in my vision suddenly about 5-10 hours later. But it's been 6 days since and the shit should've already cleaned from my system and it was a very therapeutic dose in general, why did it have such an impact. I later read that it increases metabolism and this is known to cause hppd. I'm so sad and sorry, I feel like I won't have my life back.