New Tool Rapidly Tracks Psychedelic Effects in Brain Neurons

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New Tool Rapidly Tracks Psychedelic Effects in Brain Neurons

"Psychedelic compounds like LSD, DMT and psilocybin promote the growth and strengthening of neurons and their connections in the brain’s prefrontal cortex. The new tool could help scientists unlock the benefits of psychedelic treatments for patients with brain disorders."

Lol what? They cause disorders!

[yarkadin]

This is exactly what I was talking about in another post: these dumbasses think these drugs have potential for curing the same things they cause.

The author, Andrew Fell, can be contacted: ahfell@ucdavis.edu.  I don't have time with my job to go around hunting down all of these articles and disputing or introducing doubts on what their authors say.  They are a very loud and big presence in the neuroscience community right now as they have been for years (unfortunately little has changed!).

If these geniuses can come up with some strain of LSD that is proven NOT to cause any complications that might be different.  But it would be NICE if they at least acknowledge the fact that this shit can cause enormous harm... what they are doing by promoting these things without those caveats is completely irresponsible in my opinion.

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2 hours ago, yarkadin said:

This is exactly what I was talking about in another post: these dumbasses think these drugs have potential for curing the same things they cause.

The author, Andrew Fell, can be contacted: ahfell@ucdavis.edu.  I don't have time with my job to go around hunting down all of these articles and disputing or introducing doubts on what their authors say.  They are a very loud and big presence in the neuroscience community right now as they have been for years (unfortunately little has changed!).

If these geniuses can come up with some strain of LSD that is proven NOT to cause any complications that might be different.  But it would be NICE if they at least acknowledge the fact that this shit can cause enormous harm... what they are doing by promoting these things without those caveats is completely irresponsible in my opinion.

Thanks, I will email. I would like to make them aware of the possibility of the opposite at least. It is very irresponsible of them or hopefully just ignorant. I also wonder what they would have to say about our community. Now we have a lot of official links to send regarding HPPD and visual snow and doctors involved so I think that makes it easier for us. HPPD doctor specialists and Sierra Domb really put it on the map. Maybe these guys can go directly to the specialists and spokespersons for this if they don't want to deal with us.

Edited August 6 by brake

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I sent the following email:

 

Subject Line: Psychedelics may cause Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder (HPPD) and Visual Snow Syndrome

Hello Andrew Fell,

I frequently read Neuroscience News and read your article titled "New Tool Rapidly Tracks Psychedelic Effects in Brain Neurons". I would like to warn you however that psychedelics might actually be the cause of brain disorders. Below is more information and links on the topic. There are experts in the field in which you could get in contact with. I and thousands of others have suffered with HPPD and Visual Snow for many years. We would really like to find a cure or better treatment. I think your expertise on the topic would be very useful:

https://www.businessinsider.com/9-years-after-acid-trip-man-has-persistent-anxiety-visuals-2022-4

https://psychedelic.support/resources/hppd-flashbacks-and-the-problem-of-psychedelic-anxiety/

https://hopkinspsychedelic.org/hppdsurvey

https://journals.lww.com/addictiondisorders/abstract/2020/03000/faces_of_hppd__hallucinogen_persisting_perception.6.aspx

https://www.visualsnowinitiative.org/

https://www.perception.foundation/specialists-directory

https://sierradomb.com/

https://rxisk.org/tsang-shidlofsky-visual-snow-protocol/

https://www.brainstimjrnl.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1935-861X(23)01980-0

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-30/research-into-hallucinogenic-persistent-perception-disorder-hppd/103641192

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-08-brain-scan-biological-basis-visual.html

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24933532/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3736944/

https://q.surveys.unimelb.edu.au/jfe/form/SV_4T2F61WiEKKeLsO

HPPD Forum

Many thanks!

Best Regards,
Brake from the HPPD Forum

Edited August 9 by brake

[yarkadin]

Let us know if and how he responds.  This is a far kinder response than what I would have written.  There are some interesting links here I will also check...

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6 hours ago, yarkadin said:

Let us know if and how he responds.  This is a far kinder response than what I would have written.  There are some interesting links here I will also check...

Nah dude I really want him to help our cause or to at least keep it in mind that it's not so simple that "psychedelics are good" and this is coming from a former hippie sympathizer that also thought LSD was good. Psychedelics kind of help, up until you get a really bad trip or variation of HPPD and/or visual snow. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he didn't know.

Edited August 10 by brake

[yarkadin]

Man, how massively ignorant do you have to be today, studying the effects of hallucinogens, to not know about HPPD or "flashbacks" or both? 

By the way, I remember years back people always confused the persisting perceptual disorder with flashbacks.  Have you ever corresponded with someone with so-called "HPPD 1"?  Who are these people who just periodically get some kind of psychedelic experience?  Is that really PTSD?  Legitimately curious... might be a good side-topic... though I know if I make a separate post about it I'll get one response probably and then everyone will forget about it.

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32 minutes ago, yarkadin said:

Man, how massively ignorant do you have to be today, studying the effects of hallucinogens, to not know about HPPD or "flashbacks" or both? 

By the way, I remember years back people always confused the persisting perceptual disorder with flashbacks.  Have you ever corresponded with someone with so-called "HPPD 1"?  Who are these people who just periodically get some kind of psychedelic experience?  Is that really PTSD?  Legitimately curious... might be a good side-topic... though I know if I make a separate post about it I'll get one response probably and then everyone will forget about it.

True HPPD was already in the DSM book of disorders since 1987. That's like 37 years of not much progress lol. And actually yes, a few of my friends who did plenty of psychedelics told me they have brief partial flashbacks that are temporary and benign. It doesn't overpower them or their life. Like sometimes my friend will see it in a radiator or something like that but nothing serious and debilitating. Once I went on a run with one of my bestfriends at the time and he was into spirituality and shamanism and I guess it was so intense for him that he started seeing "stars" and he was like worried a little and I told him that's what HPPD and visual snow is like everyday and he was like oh wow. He only had it for a brief moment and was like sad and scared.

I also watched this interview with some LSD dealer who would take copious amounts of LSD and he says he has like the not serious form of HPPD. He will see things in his peripheral but not all of the time and everyday. He says he's not mad or surprised though because he took so much LSD throughout his life that he would expect at least a little HPPD lol. But even this guy who was an LSD dealer and loved LSD and did like entire sheets of it, doesn't have the kind of visual snow and HPPD that we have lol. This was his interview:

Former LSD Dealer Interview

Edited August 12 by brake

[yarkadin]

30 minutes ago, brake said:

True HPPD was already in the DSM book of disorders since 1987. That's like 37 years of not much progress lol. And actually yes, a few of my friends who did plenty of psychedelics told me they have brief partial flashbacks that are temporary and benign. It doesn't overpower them or their life. Like sometimes my friend will see it in a radiator or something like that but nothing serious and debilitating. Once I went on a run with one of my bestfriends at the time and he was into spirituality and shamanism and I guess it was so intense for him that he started seeing "stars" and he was like worried a little and I told him that's what HPPD and visual snow is like everyday and he was like oh wow. He only had it for a brief moment and was like sad and scared.

I also watched this interview with some LSD dealer who would take copious amounts of LSD and he says he has like the not serious form of HPPD. He will see things in his peripheral but not all of the time and everyday. He says he's not mad or surprised though because he took so much LSD throughout his life that he would expect at least a little HPPD lol. But even this guy who was an LSD dealer and loved LSD and did like entire sheets of it, doesn't have the kind of visual snow and HPPD that we have lol. This was his interview:

Former LSD Dealer Interview

I know we are going completely off topic here... but did you see the first comment on that youtube LSD Dealer thread?  Some person saying their life was saved with hallucinogens, and the torrent of likes that follows.  This is what I was saying before... in the words of Pinhead of Hellraiser, "demons to some, angels to others"!  May very well be angels to most... but who wants to take that risk knowingly?  I didn't watch the whole interview since the guy seems like a moron and I don't have time right now.

LSD and hallucinogen dealers should all be sitting in prison in my opinion.  They are ruining lives and I have no confidence in them warning anyone.  The warning needs to come from without, from a government agency.  People aren't going to self-police these things.