extremist Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 So, just about seven weeks ago, I had 165mg of DXM (from lozenges - no other active ingredients) without issue. A week later I had 450mg (from syrup - no other active ingredients) with a lot of caffeine. Since the second dose, I've had some shadowy visual disturbances, but, more importantly, a persistent feeling of dissociation. It gets better and worse, but is never totally gone. It's been more than a month since I had the DXM, so I'm not sure if it's HPPD, something neurochemical, or what. What should I do?Thanks a lot for reading, and more for your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret Posted March 31, 2013 Report Share Posted March 31, 2013 It doesn't really sound like you have the visuals for me to call it HPPD but I would definately stay sober for a while and dont go back to dumb shit like DXM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Yeah, you don't need to tell me to stay away from DXM, I'm adequately terrified as it is. I just want to know what's wrong and when I'll be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Could you tell me a bit more about DP/DR or direct me to where I could find more info? I thought that was secondary to HPPD; and HPPD also explains the visuals I had for a while. To be more specific, I'm not sure if I have HPPD or something more DXM-specific, like neurotransmitter depletion/damage/etc or Olney's lesions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammywalker2009 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Don't you have to have persisting symptoms for like 6 months before its classed as hppd? HOpefully it's just a warning your body saying woah I didnt like that don't give it to me again and in a few more weeks it will clear up do exercise by far the best thing i found for the dr/dp side of things and keep your mind busy youll notice it less when talking with friends being occupied it's easy to forget keep clean and live easy brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hoping that it'll be gone in a few weeks, but I've been feeling it for seven and I've thought that every week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammywalker2009 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I was exactly the same when I first got it try not to dwell out of mind out of sight really does help if you can manage it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammywalker2009 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I was exactly the same when I first got it try not to dwell out of mind out of sight really does help if you can manage it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammywalker2009 Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I was exactly the same when I first got it try not to dwell out of mind out of sight really does help if you can manage it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I saw a doctor and they told me it was psychosis, but they also told me that cannabis is more dangerous than cough syrup and kept mixing it up with codeine. I'm not really sure how much I should believe them, but I'm going to see a psychiatrist for help with the anxiety if anything. I suppose it could also be argued that HPPD is a form of psychosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismo Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 "I suppose it could also be argued that HPPD is a form of psychosis." It is that assumption that has set treatment of this disorder back many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 As far as I know, psychosis simply means an abnormal sense of reality. HPPD, with its comorbid DP/DR considered, seems to fit that to me. But I'm not an expert. I'm curious about their opinion and want to know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismo Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Get on the anti-psychotics, then. And good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I'm sorry, I'm not arguing at all about what the best course of action is with regards to HPPD. Rather, I'm wondering if his assessment of psychosis can agree with my assessment of HPPD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 HPPD is not a psychosis and dont take any antipsychotics (or any medication for a while, I think you should give it at least 6 months-1 year to resolve on its own). I believe HPPD would fall under the category of somataform disorders before it would psychotic disorders. You aren't suffering from delusions and you aren't suffering from hallucinations (If you know your visuals aren't really there then they are pseudohallucinations). I'm sure the psychiatrist will know more than that doctor but I still wouldn't exspect him to know much about HPPD. As much as doctors hate it when patients self-diagnose and use the internet most people on this site know more about HPPD (even if our knowledge is purely anectdotal) than most health health professionals do. Lead him to this site if you need to. I doubt he'll look at it but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Yeah, it doesn't help that most docs don't know a lot about HPPD. I hope the psychiatrist is able to help me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 I just spoke to the psychiatrist, and, sort of like anticipated, they told me the doctor made a mistake and there's no way I have psychosis and no way they can help me. I'm meant to see a neurologist, but that can take up to 15 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpl4269 Posted April 12, 2013 Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 I just spoke to the psychiatrist, and, sort of like anticipated, they told me the doctor made a mistake and there's no way I have psychosis and no way they can help me. I'm meant to see a neurologist, but that can take up to 15 months. My guess is you will never end up seeing a neurologist if it takes 15 months. The human body is fairly resiliant. Your problems will most likely resolve within that time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2013 That's definitely what I've been hoping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2013 I was just outside in the dark, looking at streetlights. Wow, crazy halos. I never noticed them before but I'm guessing they've been there the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Don't look for them. Ignore them and they will disapear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Don't look for them. Ignore them and they will disapear Yeah, they weren't alarming to me like the visual snow is. Just something I'd never realized before, so I thought it was interesting. Really, the visuals aren't as distressing to me as the derealization/dissociation, but I'm not sure if that's an HPPD thing or a comorbidity, or if it means it's something else entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm going to start taking piracetam because I've heard of other people with DXM-induced problems having success with it. Has anybody tried taking it before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret Posted April 14, 2013 Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Personally I would advise you to stay away from medication for a while. Give your body 6 months to resolve the problem on its own, if it can't do it then you can turn to meds. Any substance you take carries a risk and I don't think its worth it when your brain may just need a little longer to re-balance itself. However I know a lot of people on here would give you advice to the contrary. The choice is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremist Posted April 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2013 Yeah, I'm very worried that it might make my problem worse. But I've heard that people have taken it and noticed immediate improvements. It won't arrive for about a month anyway, so I'll give it a while to see how things improve first. Thanks a lot for the post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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