chrismo Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 I tried to get some Clonazepam/Keppra from my doctor today. I failed. Instead, I have been giving Zopiclone to help me sleep. This may have come up before but has anyone had any negative experiences when taking this? I've read conflicting accounts of its effects on HPPD. My visuals have been getting worse recently and the dose I have been given is quite high so I'm unsure whether to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Firstly, I'm not a doctor. So you should assume your doctor knows more than we do. Secondly, I don't know what meds you are on already. I read that you have Asperger's and ADD. Thirdly, if your doctor is dead wrong or if the dosage is too high, we'll try to help. What made you think the dosage may be too high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 On second look, i would try to avoid taking this drug. What are all your symptoms? And what drug triggered this "episode"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismo Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 When it comes to HPPD I can guarantee you that anyone on here knows more than my doctor. I don't have Aperger's or ADD. Pretty sure this episode was triggered by Mirtazipine which I have discontinued- visuals and DP were intensified. What makes you say I should avoid it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismo Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Okay, I've now seen this discussed in another topic and it seems that it is definitely best to avoid it. Pity, I was looking forward to sleeping tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.trudeau Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Hydroxyzine really helps with sleep! 50mg will knock you out cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismo Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 That's an antihistamine, right? Definitely seems like a safer option. Although I'll try pretty much anything at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Oh sorry! I accidentally gave you more disorders, based on my own stupidity [..thought you were a different person, sorry]. Mirtazipine appears to be a "tricyclic AD" and is supposedly very effective but much less tolerable than newer AD classes. But it's a "-pine". It's basically an antipsychotic. Zopiclone, Sure you can take it and you will probably be out like a light. But i suppose some sort of hallucinations surrounding waking and going to sleep [hypnopompic] are possible but may not be probable. Like i said i am not a doctor and i have never taken these "Z" drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Thoses Z drugs may be good and effective. (?) I know as for antihistamines Benadryl (diphenhydramine) will do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.trudeau Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 That's an antihistamine, right? Definitely seems like a safer option. Although I'll try pretty much anything at this point. Yep, it is. It also helps a lot with anxiety too at lower doses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismo Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Oh sorry! I accidentally gave you more disorders, based on my own stupidity [..thought you were a different person, sorry]. Mirtazipine appears to be a "tricyclic AD" and is supposedly very effective but much less tolerable than newer AD classes. But it's a "-pine". It's basically an antipsychotic. Zopiclone, Sure you can take it and you will probably be out like a light. But i suppose some sort of hallucinations surrounding waking and going to sleep [hypnopompic] are possible but may not be probable. Like i said i am not a doctor and i have never taken these "Z" drugs. Hmm. I was down for taking the Zopiclone but read that a member on here had a bad experience with it. I thought it might help with visuals but I don't want to risk it if it might have the opposite effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Hydroxyzine used to be seen as a tranquilizer. It will put you out. But if you have a cold, antihistamine could end in infection [eustachian/ear], potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismo Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Don't know if I can wait to get a presription for that. I might just take the Zopiclone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted November 2, 2012 Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 Here in America, you can get Benadryl, over-the-counter at any grocery store. UK: I'm not sure. If your doc is a douche, than it's on you. If you take it, tell us the outcome. Other option: go to the grocery store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismo Posted November 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2012 It's 11:51 right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
415_stylee Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 I´ve had Zopiclone for a period of 6 months. I doesn´t affect HPPD in any way really, personally I think it´s crap since I could never fall asleep on Zopiclone alone. Don´t take it every day like I did, space the use some days apart. It´s not very addictive IMO, I tapered it for a week only and got off it with only a few days of mild abstinence and one completely sleepless night. No danger.. But it can make you extremely fatigued and lethargic after some months use. The metallic taste of Zopiclone is god awful too.. Try Zolpidem if it doesn´t work, it´s the only sleep med that has worked for me so far, and gives the least tiredness the following day. Or if you have milder insomnia antihistamines might work too, they´re not addictive at all. Though they can make you feel like a zombie the day after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismo Posted November 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Well, I took it. You're right about the taste and it didn't exactly knock me out right away, either. Slight VS reduction, maybe. Might just have been that I was more relaxed so didn't notice it as much. Feel really groggy today, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey_magic Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 I had two 7.5 mg zoplicone a month or two ago. I was out like the proverbial light. In a coma for 15 hours. (But then that was with 10mg Valium, 3mg klonopin, 300 mg tramadol and 6 tequila sunrises and some gin. Lol. But took it by itself a few days later. Certainly works f or sleep for me personally as I sleep pretty badly cos of my hppd, but so does the diphenhydramine route work as well as I've found recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted November 6, 2012 Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 3rd: Holy Sh-t! How are you still living? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey_magic Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Not sure, I certainly didn't make my work the next day that's for sure. Infact I can't recall talking to them when they phoned me the next day asking where I was. Think I mumbled something about a migraine lol. Then I phoned back hours later when I was slightly more compis mentis trying to explain myself. I said I took what I thought was a 'herbal' sleeping pill that mistakenly was a pharmaceutical grade one that hit me for 6 and thats why i hadnt adhered to the 'off sick procedure' haha. A modicum of truth to it I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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