willitgoaway Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Klonopin or Xanax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 For what? Quick relief? long term use? Occasional use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willitgoaway Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 can't fall asleep. and visuals sometimes bother me. i am in really stressful year,i need to take university exam and i can't study much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Lorazepam .....................Klonopin is borderline shit [5 day half life] and Xanax is give-you-seizure-W/D shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 can't fall asleep Have you tried Melatonin for sleep? Stress is part of life, especially during exams. Maybe hit the gym or the sports field.... Could that alleviate the stress? Then it is just the visuals.... It sounds like they don't bother you too much and hopefully better sleep and less stress might bring them down even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willitgoaway Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 i don't have any problems with stress. i can't sleep because of closed eye visuals. my sleep quality is pretty good,better than average i'd say. but falling asleep is the hard part. doctor offered to try atarax(hydroxyzine) first,if it doesn't work, she'll put me on xanax i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Xanax is not for sleep, it is for anxiety Temazepam is the sleep benzo. Ambien and Lunesta are pseudo benzos for sleep - and also are known for memory problems (Lunesta can be used as a date-rape drug). As far as I know, Klonopin is the only benzo for visuals You sound like just something relaxing might help ... and train your brain to think your CEVs are your 'sleep opera' (bedtime story). And Jay's exercise tip is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Yea, CEVs can be somewhat enjoyable, if you train yourself not to worry too much about them. Just relax and watch the patterns form. But I would definitely try Melatonin before any prescribed meds... They really do work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey_magic Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Good grade melatonin works well. Out of klonopin and Xanax I can say personally Xanax felt more 'natural' in its anti anxiety effects. Allthough I think my klono prescription is generic shit. Never had a extended run on lorazepam, just one here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Benadryl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrade Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Let Jack Nicholson tell you about benzos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNf8m5XILA&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_nFpzZxPoQ&feature=plcp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNf8m5XILA&feature=plcp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaolinbomber Posted October 17, 2012 Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Xanax is not for sleep, it is for anxiety Temazepam is the sleep benzo. Ambien and Lunesta are pseudo benzos for sleep - and also are known for memory problems (Lunesta can be used as a date-rape drug). As far as I know, Klonopin is the only benzo for visuals You sound like just something relaxing might help ... and train your brain to think your CEVs are your 'sleep opera' (bedtime story). And Jay's exercise tip is good. I can attest to this. Lunesta totally wipes my memory clean whenever I use it for sleep. I wake up not remembering anything up to about 4 hours before I fall asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey_magic Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Lunesta sounds good then. Blacking outs the closest I come to peace I can get. But alcohol blacks me out but releases the 'hppd' monster in me. A bit like the hulk but not as strong or cool and the only destructive force he has is to himself. Makes me sound like a schizo lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghormeh Sabzi Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Xanax is not for sleep, it is for anxiety Temazepam is the sleep benzo. Ambien and Lunesta are pseudo benzos for sleep - and also are known for memory problems (Lunesta can be used as a date-rape drug). As far as I know, Klonopin is the only benzo for visuals You sound like just something relaxing might help ... and train your brain to think your CEVs are your 'sleep opera' (bedtime story). And Jay's exercise tip is good. Diazepam works on visuals too, apparently. Never tried a benzo personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I get visual relief from all the benzos i've tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Valerian helped me for a while when i couldnt sleep well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VisualDude Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I get visual relief from all the benzos i've tried. Interesting. Would you list each one and what visual affect they had? Valerian helped me for a while when i couldnt sleep well It is commonly used for sleep. Unfortunately, of all the benzos, Valerian builds tolerance the quickest Diazepam works on visuals too, apparently. Never tried a benzo personally. Valium didn't affect my visual ... but neither does Klonopin have much effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs1234 Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Xanax doesn't effect me at all; I don't even feel it. Klonopin on the other and helps me tremendously. It doesn't really lessen my visuals that much unless I take a big dose but when I smoked pot on klonopin my visuals didn't increase. Xanax is usually used for panic attacks and klonopin for all day anxiety relief, so whatever floats your boat. You should ask your doctor to try both of them though, just to see which one works better for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay1 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 From my experience: Xanax - 2mg, 70% reduction in visuals for about 4-6 hours Klonopin - 2mg, 70% reduction in visuals for about 12 hours Valium - 10mg, 60% reduction in visuals for about 12 hours Lorazepam - 3mg, 50% reduction in visuals for about 6 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
415_stylee Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 Zolpidem (benzo-like) works excellent for falling asleep IMO. It´s a short acting knockout basically. Day after effects? None at all. Melatonin and Valdoxan (a melatonin reuptake inhibitor) did nothing for me except increasing dream activity. All benzodiazepines I´ve used have worked for falling asleep, but don´t use the more long-acting benzos if you have sleep-walking problems like I have. On Lorazepam I called 2 people in my sleep without remembering it, when I asked them they said they only heard heavy breathing. I woke up with the phone next to the bed, with the line active for 2 ½ hours. Creepy! I have not really experienced any visual relief from any benzo so far, but it cuts down many of the related symptoms, like feeling high, floating in the air feeling, muscle tension, impaired cognition, DP/DR, anxiety etc. Lorazepam is my preferred benzo for use during the day, only use it when I really need it so I´ve not built any real tolerance to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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