Crunchy

Did it help visuals?

Whatever anyone does don't take fluoroquinolones!!! I'm pretty crippled still 3 years later.

Will you be my dr?

Clonazapam helped me a lot mentally but no decrease in visuals but I was only on 1mg/day for a week. Would this be a better non addictive alternative?

Any experience?

I found this interesting as I have some of these visuals and what parts of my brain are being affected. Others I've heard on here say they have some but I don't. I thought someone smart here might be able to put some pieces of the puzzle together as to what substances affect what in what way and other neurological visual perception disorders without the use of hallucinogens. https://jnnp.bmj.com/content/81/11/1280

Great post! I think about these things like quantum immortality (several close calls I can't really explain how I made it out of) and have seen other very supernatural things. Ive been started to therapy but I don't think I'm going to talk much about them. I want to but it's seems like psychiatry doesn't want anything do due with "magical beliefs" this is one of the symptoms of schizotypal disorder. Delusions I guess they'd say. I tried to talk deeply but they didn't know what hppd was until I said it's in the DSM V. They immediately pointed to psychosis/schizophrenia. But I've had others confirm they saw the strange unexplainable things too so it couldn't have been a hallucination or a delusion (like a ufo) (ouija board experience) (physical objects appearing that never existed or disappearing) unless they were shared sober hallucinations we could see smell touch taste hear. Lol but it could be argued that's all life is. Like a dream. But on a more dense level? I mean there has been reports of two people having the same dream. I've had a dream about someone in my face trying to get my attention and then they call and wake me up with something very important. And there is such a thing as tactile and olfactory, taste hallucinations. It's just when they're shared we call it reality. I always found it weird when people tell me they don't dream in color. Anyway my fear of talking about the spiritual and supernatural is while technically I probably do fall in the schizotypal category, it was never a problem for me and I'm afraid to take antipsychotics and antidepressants although I do have depression and anxiety. These drugs are known to make hppd worse. And are VERY easy to get. While the best ones seems to be klonopin or lamictal but lamictal seems more risky. Idk Id just like to try the former for a short period first. I actually got my hppd from a legal drug but I've told the truth about my past drug use and for me at least it's not helping treatment. Have you been diagnosed with anything besides hppd? Tried any meds or supplements? Everyone I've talked to in psychiatry has been clueless and can't diagnose me but the opthalmologist knew what it was lol. I had real bad anxiety and derealization I guess it was. I still felt like I was tripping or going into a bad trip for the first few weeks. I guess I kinda do still feel it sometimes when anxiety increases but it did get A LOT better with time. Wish the visual would too. How are you doing a couple months later? Thanks for sharing.

I'm sorry. I'm going through the same thing. Delta 8 thc induced. I've refused antipsychotics and antidepressants as they are reported to make hppd worse. I've have the derealization too. I guess that's what it is. Just weird feeling like I'm tripping/going into a bad trip. The anxiety makes it worse. BAD anxiety. I shook like a chihuahua for 5 days. I think those symptoms gotten a little better over a month but visuals, light sensitivity/after images have remained the same. Actually got worse over the first two weeks after the shivering stopped but seems to have peaked. It's been a month. I don't have snow but I have Tinnitus. It seems like our best chance is klonopin (2 reported significant reduction in symptoms from synthetic cannabinoids) or lamotrigine or just time. Klonopin seems like the least risk to me for a short term trial but seems hard to get and we know how easy antidepressant and antipsychotics are. Ive had an eye exam that came back normal and I'm waiting for mri/eeg in neuro ophthalmology. Hang in there. You're not crazy. I know how hard it is. I went to er. Urgent treatment, now in group therapy doing nothing. I tried hydroxyzine and propanalol. Did not help. My psych didn't even know what hppd was. But I've told them too much about my spiritual beliefs and supernatural experiences so they want to label me schizo and I just can't risk making it or my pre existing symptoms worse. I hope this becomes more recognized, studied and treated correctly.

Got mine from delta 8 too but I've got intense light sensitivity. Colors brighter. After images. And wavy text or other patterns. Floaters. Tinnitus. No snow though. I looked at an led a week ago and it's still in my vision. The anxiety and dissociation or derealization whatever has died down some after a month. How are you doing today?

I think so. But I also think it's normal like dreaming. I start to have closed eye visual before I'm fully asleep sometimes. Even as a kid. When I started smoking weed I'd see opened eye visual just like my closed eye ones but that went away as I got older and kept smoking. I got good hppd delta 8 thc now 20 years later. So yeah it may be a ln early sign to start clear. Also a lot of dxm and a handfull of dph trips when younger. Lsd, mushrooms. Huffed gas. And much more stupid crap. Pretty sure I had hppd before delta 8 it just wasn't very noticable.

This makes perfect sense since I had fluoroquinolone toxicity, which damages mitochondrial dna, a couple years ago and had a bad trip on delta 8 THC 3 weeks ago and can't stop tripping. Horrible anxiety. All the symptoms except visual snow. It a has increased over the weeks. I feel brain damaged. It explains why I'm so sensitive to other drugs. Tried amitriptyline before this a couple months ago for ibs and haven't stopped twitching. So I'm afraid to try another antidepressant or antipsychotic but that's about all you can get very easily. If HPPD is so similar to schizophrenia why do antipsychotics or antidepressants reportedly make it worse? Can symptoms of both be present? Is insitol hexanicotinate of any value? Or is specifically nicotinic acid the best? I'm sorry you may have answered these but this is a lot to process/understand. Thank you for your studies. I will try and show this to a Dr. If I can find one that will look over this and help me decipher it all and try this. I hope this is reversable.

Any benefit or downside of Requip (Ropinirole) over Sinemet? I've been offered it for muscle twitches. Considering.

I'm in the US and they take it pretty seriously. They ask every time at the dr even if you're just there for a cold. And it seems like things like klonopin and opiates are hard to get especially with past drug abuse history. But they push antidepressants really bad. Thanks for the advice.

Will they lock me up if I'm having suicidal thoughts? I don't want to die. I just want this to end. Klono pin is just for anxiety right? I want to try it but afraid to ask. Afraid of not being believed and misdiagnosed. It just seems to be getting worse. Words are wobbling now.

Hi I know there's not much research into this and especially delta 8 but I would think anybody with thc induced would be similar. It's been probably 10 or more days since I took what was labeled as 100 mg D8 THC but I'd taken more before and usually took 125 to 200 for me to feel good. But this was different and sent me into a horrible trip. The brand was called Alien. It said 50mg per price on the front of package. But on the back said 12.5 mg (hemp derived) per price on back. Which has me wondering if it was some other synthetic cannabinoid. Or if synthetic D8 is different that naturally extracted? Anyway about 2-4 hours in I began shaking and muscle twitching which I've experienced slightly in regular weed but goes away pretty fast. This lasted hours. Colors were bright and things moving like a led light on my tv in the dark. I couldn't sleep but tried. The twitching shaking and anxious feeling was so intense but I tried to wait it out. I've already been twitching for over a month before this constantly in my legs and face and all over for the last month following amitriptyline treatment for irritable bowel syndrome. It started making my eye twitch and calf twitch around 2 weeks in and I stopped use after a month because of the twitching. That's when the twitching became body wide. So after a month of twitching a depression from it and pain in my joints tendons and muscles after being "floxed" aka fluoroquinolone toxicity from cipro and flagyl for my abdomen pain that was "suspected urinary tract infection" 3 years ago in 2019, I decided to take delta 8 and hope it helped my pain and twitching. It just made everything so much worse. I was laying my bed trembling in fear. And was in a half awake/trance/sleep state having closed eye visuals of weed plants and other things similar to mushroom visual but not geometric. I was woke up by the voice of my dad saying. "Not this time son" but I immediately knew it wasn't him. I felt an evil presence. A very dark negative energy. I prayed and looked around and nothing was there. I was able to go to sleep but upon waking. I was immediately trembling and tense all over and still felt that evil feeling. Forgot to mention I probably had about 9 beers before taking the d8 and had been drinking about 6 -12 beers every day for about a week. I've quit cold turkey from a binge before and have had some anxiety and depression for a few days after quitting but this wasn't that. I drank a little after and didn't sit still for 14 hours to try and cope. The alcohol hadn't even had time to leave my system but quitting and withdrawal didn't help. I went to urgent care because I couldn't stop trembling like I was cold but wasn't and very depressed. On the way there I was having thoughts about a jumping out the car. My fingers and feet were tingling. They could only guess a panic attack and sent me on my way with a paper to make an appointment with psychiatry. The next day I went and had an assessment and I told them about the d8 and alcohol and trembling and fear but not the bright colors or voice I heard. They were going to give me hydroxyzine but said they needed to talk to my therapist first who I've only seen once prior to this because I established primary care and was upset about the pain and state of my body since now I seem stuck with twitching but he just referred me to mental health. This was before the d8. The trembling lasted about 4 days. And I can feel the fear and trembling in the background now and if I don't do something to keep my mind busy it can come back. Usually just pacing or reading or something else helps. But it's hard to focus on anything like tv or anything. Can't relax. Driving and listening to music helps but I'm honestly scared it's dangerous. Especially at night. Not so much the vidual part but the mental part of not being able to pay attention. I'm forgetting words and named easily. Still twitching but I was before this trip. Colors are still bright and like like high definition especially on tv or phones or artificial lighting. Going into a grocery store I really feel messed up. Like I'm on a mild LSD trip and very slight after images. That's all visual wise but the anxiety and depression and thoughts and just an overall weird disoriented feeling. Like I'm tripping. And a bad trip feeling. Now that most of the uncontrollable trembling is gone I can feel kinda happy sometimes but it's more of just laughing at how messed up I feel. Like haha this is ridiculous. But it's kind of torturous. On top of my pain and twitching I was already dealing with now I feel like my brain is broken and there's always an evil negative energy lurking in or around me. I'm having suicidal thoughts but I don't want to die. I just want this bad trip to be over. I want things to be better. Not just with me but with the world. All the suffering and injury from drugs. Especially legal ones people are being prescribed or taking otc to feel better just to be permanently injured. Then all the rcs and synthetic cannabinoids. To all the war and suffering and unfair poverty and disease and pain. I want it all to end. But I've been trying to push this all in the back of my mind and pray it will go away with time. I've been taking collagen and hyaluronic acid and colostrum for my joints before and currently. I saw primary care about 6 days after and was able to look and talk normal just addressing a panic attack and the twitching and muscle and joint and tendon pain I've been living with. He referred me to physical therapy and recommended to prescribe Ropinirole which is for parkinson's and restless leg syndrome. But I haven't been diagnosed with either. The side effects are scary and involve hallucinations and behavioral changes like excessive gambling and Hypersexuality. That one might be fun lol and augmentation. And others. But I just read this. https://psychcentral.com/health/what-is-hppd#what-is-hppd which has documented 1 case of someone put on it with HPPD and it helped. Yeah I know 1 case. And I doubt it was thc induced. But I'm really afraid to try anymore antidepressants or especially antipsychotics. Because I don't want the twitching to get worse. Mine are small and not jerks but I have had some full body jerks falling asleep recently. Idk if that or all of it can be purely anxiety but before the d8 even when I wasn't feeling anxious was twitching. I've just started taking fish oil and turmeric. Read fish oil helped some on here and didn't think turmeric would hurt but I honestly don't know. I've taken LSD moderately in the past and mushrooms and was a regular weed smoker. Along with many others like dph dxm dmt etc. but it's been over 10 years. Currently still using nicotine pouches. I took melatonin the past few nights. 5 mg which helps the panic but then im just speepy with all the thoughts and it might be increasing visuals. I really think a beer would help very temporarily but it's a slippery slope. I'd like to try klonopin since seems to have helped a lot of people but afraid they won't give me them since all my history of drug abuse. I'm wondering if I'm psychotic or schizophrenic but I'm not hearing voices or just some other brain damage but I really don't want to take antipsychotics or antidepressants but that seems way too easy to get. I've taken seroquel which was prescribed for sleep because of pain. Ridiculous. That's when I first felt twitching but went away after quitting. Anyway. I know a lot of this wasn't necessary but that's what's happening and wondering if anyone has tried Ropinirole? It's a dopamine agonist. Doesn't thc affect dopamine? Seems possible it could make things worse but literally 0 research. Any advice is appreciated especially anyone that's gone through delta 8 or just regular thc HPPD. It doesn't seem to come and go. It's pretty constant feeling like I'm still tripping on it. I had visuals on weed when I was a kid if that's any indicator for this. That went away until d8. I'm 35 now. My heart goes out to anyone stuck with this. Mental health is no joke.